The very essence of the Zero Point concept.
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@SaintSovereign is it ok to listen to 10 seconds or 8 seconds or even 5 seconds of script for microloop or thats too less of an exposure? I see some people using it with success and wanted to know your thoughts on the same.
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Not Saint, but I can confirm that I got results with just 10 seconds in one cycle. Far better results compared to when I used the same sub with full loops 20 months ago.
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Thank you for sharing that. One question, have you tried going even lower, say 8 secs and 5 secs?
No. I always used 10 seconds.
I usually take much longer to see results, so I’m not willing to change anything at the moment.
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I actually meant to say " ruthless execution " but seriously? This is the essence of the Zero Point concept?
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This is why Saint frequently says, ‘You are the Zero Point’.
Do you see the connection?
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@SaintSovereign got a great idea that will boost profits for SC.
We now know that 1 min loops work. So why not create 1 minute subs ?
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The idea is to still reach full loops, lmao. But do so progressively in a pace you can handle. If you made 1 min subs. That would look like playing for 1 secs and stopping. Not sure if that’s feasible even, nor would we even like it. People would mostly overexpose on it as they won’t believe 1 min would work. Look at how long people took to adopt 1 min microloops themselves.
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afaik they don’t really do less than 15 min subs because people are already overexposing a ton, making anything shorter than that would just make it easier
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Yes & no. Can you explain it like I’m 5 with crayons?
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I love that. I was actually being sarcastic if it wasn’t obvious but I am curious if there is a definitive explanation of what Zero Point is? @SaintSovereign has said multiple times that you cannot lie to Zero Point. To me that makes it sound very much like it’s what or who you are at your core. Your true self concept as it were.
The beginning or starting point of everything?
A hard reset for everything? Way beyond what people call Tubula Rasa?
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You can find more about ZP in this article
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Thank you so much. I forgot about this
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I’m impressed. I think you’ve got the idea.
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That means a lot to me . Thank you
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I think it’s actually a profound point.
I’m still exploring it myself. So I’m not to the point of understanding it well enough to do the 5 with crayons version.
Last night, I experienced an opening and a shift related to this. I wrote about it offline. I’ll edit the original writing to make it less personal:
I got the insight tonight, as I reflected on my subliminals (and as I prepared to do another practice) that it is important to recognize MY VERSION of the archetypes that I am cultivating.
Sometimes I under-recognize or completely overlook what is happening because of my preconceptions about how change SHOULD look.
It struck me that this [overall change process] is not about ‘fixing’ myself. It’s about being agile, creative, and responsive in the world in order to find and make situations and outcomes that are to my liking.
MY LIKING.
Moreover, the right outcomes are going to be ones that FIT with who I am. In other words, there’s nothing wrong with who and what I am. But at the same time, I can search, learn, express, travel, and grow to bring my life into more pleasing configurations.
This struck me profoundly.
At first, it seemed to me that I was trying to locate mountains so that I could move them. Now it seems to me that I am locating the mountains so that I can climb them and ski down them.
So, yes; like you, I’m still in the process of exploring and understanding this principle myself. I do not think that it is somehow obvious or common sense. But I think I’m gradually coming to understand it better over time.
Let’s keep going.
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Last night, I had a similar conversation with my sister about WB and how it didn’t change me into someone I’m not (forcing on me any predefined archetype or me expecting any certain archetype/traits) but instead helped me uncover that “part of me” which resonated most with the scripting—the seducer in me—and which was externalized through my experiences with my ex-lover, deepening the uncovering process even further.
Those experiences with her were vital because they allowed me to discover who I am and my natural seduction blueprint without any pretense, tactics, games, or fakery. I just let my subconscious guide me and allowed the process to unfold. I’ve grown tremendously that way. I’m far more complete now not only as a seducer but as “me”.
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