Main Disc. Thread - Fire vs. Saint Round 4 [The Battle is On!]

Can u summarise that idea

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Sure

Radical Personal Responsibility and execution

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This looks amazing i just looked it up.

Keep us all posted I really feel somehow ED opened your mind and it pushed SubC to find a solution.

Going to nick name James FFD.

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The very essence of the Zero Point concept.

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@SaintSovereign is it ok to listen to 10 seconds or 8 seconds or even 5 seconds of script for microloop or thats too less of an exposure? I see some people using it with success and wanted to know your thoughts on the same.

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Not Saint, but I can confirm that I got results with just 10 seconds in one cycle. Far better results compared to when I used the same sub with full loops 20 months ago.

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Thank you for sharing that. One question, have you tried going even lower, say 8 secs and 5 secs?

No. I always used 10 seconds.
I usually take much longer to see results, so I’m not willing to change anything at the moment.

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I actually meant to say " ruthless execution " but seriously? This is the essence of the Zero Point concept?

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This is why Saint frequently says, ‘You are the Zero Point’.

Do you see the connection?

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@SaintSovereign got a great idea that will boost profits for SC.

We now know that 1 min loops work. So why not create 1 minute subs ?

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The idea is to still reach full loops, lmao. But do so progressively in a pace you can handle. If you made 1 min subs. That would look like playing for 1 secs and stopping. Not sure if that’s feasible even, nor would we even like it. People would mostly overexpose on it as they won’t believe 1 min would work. Look at how long people took to adopt 1 min microloops themselves.

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afaik they don’t really do less than 15 min subs because people are already overexposing a ton, making anything shorter than that would just make it easier

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Yes & no. Can you explain it like I’m 5 with crayons?

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I love that. I was actually being sarcastic if it wasn’t obvious but I am curious if there is a definitive explanation of what Zero Point is? @SaintSovereign has said multiple times that you cannot lie to Zero Point. To me that makes it sound very much like it’s what or who you are at your core. Your true self concept as it were.

The beginning or starting point of everything?

A hard reset for everything? Way beyond what people call Tubula Rasa?

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James @Malkuth is right please listen to him.

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You can find more about ZP in this article

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Thank you so much. I forgot about this