Main Disc. Thread - Fire vs. Saint Round 4 [The Battle is On!]

Hi @SaintSovereign can you perhaps modify the new version of hero to work with WB, Wanted and S&S thanks in advance.

Smells like a rick roll

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Hopefully (for me) a single stager and new title, not an update.

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I don’t think it’s Khan Black II. Khan Black II would just be Khan Black upgraded. It’s a new title.

IIRC Khan Black 2 is suppose to be a new title, while Khan Black OG is still getting NSE/ZPU upgrades and I think stage 2 is getting some re work done

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Hummm :thinking:

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Khan Black is under the Khan product line because it primarily deals with sexual energy.

“Khan Black 2” is supposed to deal with energy cultivation in general, which I expect would place it under the Alchemist product line instead.

So my guess and the KB2 guesses may both refer to the same product.

Edit: my reply not specifically intended for Uber_Elysium, just a general comment.

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Well (for everyone as well), there’s this little hint too :wink:

Thus, in the hidden recesses of my mind and the silenced corners of my lab, a project takes form, a project baptised in the light of my lost love: I call it “Aeon.” For her, for love, for the silent symphony that still binds us, I will push beyond all boundaries, tear down the walls of reality itself.

And then later:

I am The Revelator, a seeker of truth and a lover beyond the confines of time and space, and I will keep playing out the endless symphony of the cosmos, one note, one frequency, one revelation at a time.

Do you see? :wink:

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My guess for the goodies:
-An anti recon sub. There were ideas about this flying around & they wanted to test the anti recon scripting. An anti recon sub before ZPU would make sense.
-An update to AC to base it off of ZPU/anti recon instead of a new sub.
-An update to LE/GLM. Both are semi-confirmed to come soon/around this time. Maybe soon enough to be included as one of the goodies.

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@emperor_obewan Where is this quote from? Where is the link? Or is this your quote? The following quote “For her, for love, for the silent symphony that still binds us…” I know where that quote is from, but you combined those 2 quotes together as if they were said together, and I’m not finding that to be the case.

Take a look at the thread where Saint made his hint (above). You will find what you seek :stuck_out_tongue:

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Ok I see it now. Only the second part was quoted in the forum, but the whole quote is from The Revelation of Zero Point PDF.

@Uber_Elysium @Joa23 @bujin Khan Black was released 2 months before the Project Aeon tease in the Revelation of Zero Point PDF. I could be wrong, but I don’t think they would release Khan Black and then tease its successor, or alternative, two months later. But again, I could be wrong.

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So would I—especially given that the recon tech is an entirely new development, and Fire has only just decided to release something that had been in the making for four years.

There must be something about how the new recon tech works that makes AEON ‘ripe.’ I doubt it’s just a coincidence.

Self-exploration and introspection have been tremendously enhanced by the new tech, and I believe that’s the main reason we’re about to see AEON released. I think, the title itself will largely reflect that—and all what it entails.

:spades:

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The way I see it, looking at the different hints… you have Saint hinting at the time that he was running Khan Black so he could go on this same “Project Aeon” journey with everyone else. But, he’s also since said “Aeon has been completely overhauled. I would suspend all expectations”. It’s possible that the technology has gone beyond the need to have to run KB first to gain benefit out of it.

I think the hints given in that last two pages gives some clues as to the feel of the sub and its goals. Also there seem to be hints that sound and the idea of the “frequency bridge”, or at least of using the senses as a bridge, using the sense of hearing and maybe the music of the everyday world to reach the goals was part of the original intention in the design.

But those are just some of the clues from the pdf. And it’s likely those notions may have morphed into something bigger in the meantime. Either way, it does sound as if it was the hinted successor to KB, but is no longer precisely the same as what was hinted.

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You are quite observant. :wink:

EDIT: But again, everyone — I haven’t read the new script yet. I only know that it’s been overhauled, upgraded and that a lot of time has been spent on it.

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Touché. I stand corrected?

No at all, mate.

AEON has been in the making for over four years:

KB got released two years ago.

So I think you’re right - it’s not going to be a successor to KB.

:spades:

Well this is all semantics. What we have are the facts disclosed above and in that STKS thread and the KB thread. I’m saying the original intention may have been as something building on the concepts and outcomes that KB assisted people with, and it’s clear that the Revelator PDF was hinting at this sub, but two years after that hint was dropped and Saint said what he did, things have changed and its grown into something that is no longer simply a continuation of those KB themes. Perhaps there no longer is a successor to KB, or it has forked off from the original intent, if you catch my drift.

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I’m actually not so sure anymore lol. Saint seems to think Kenobi’s comments are very perceptive. The timing does kind of line up actually. KB is 2 years old and took 2 years to make. It started 4 years ago just like Aeon.

I remember Saint being cautious with the release of KB. Making ST4 locked until everyone ran the other stages. Threatening to not release it. Just like he threatened not to release Fire’s masterpiece whenever we didn’t behave like good little children. Then he was surprised at how well everyone was using KB. Plus it’s his favorite sub.

So maybe Aeon is the more advanced KB. The overhauled KB. Being developed alongside KB. Maybe KB was the prototype. Evangelion Unit-00. Maybe Aeon is the production model. Evangelion Unit-02

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It’s probably a long shot but maybe Aeon is an update for Emperor Fitness

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