Main Disc. Thread - Fire vs. Saint Round 4 [The Battle is On!]

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do doo doo do do dooo doo doooo :rofl:

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@Akephalos

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@Fire what will you work on after AEON? Will you begin work on season 5 Or will you help saint to quickly release the new Hero’s

I would say “hard work” is the most overrated platitude of all, most people hard work and it amounts to peanuts, pointless endless grind, its a dumb way to live life.

I seen so many times just right opportunity or right circumstance ends in more benefits in short time period like few weeks giving more than several years of “hard work” in many different areas of life.

Not worth grinding this matrix like an npc, also noticed the more i tryhard at life the more it fucks you over with bad rng.
Chill, minimum effort but effective action when it yields good benefits is ideal way.

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I would also like to add on,this concept of grinding until you make it big maybe a new concept,as in the 1960s America you could get a job instantly almost anywhere,i read in a book where a guy literally walks into a bank 0 experience and asks for a job and gets it he even explicitly told the interviewer doesn’t know whats happening there lol

Everything was cheaper too,a few years of work and you could afford to own a house and 2 cars there was no need to “make it” as you could already afford everything whereas today getting a job is a struggle in itself and then owning a home may take 10+ years(in uk chat gpt says being able to own a home with an average salary + mortgage may take 30 years and buying outright 40-60 lol!)

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It’s time to switch to Reddit lol

Yesterday, I found an interesting take on subliminals there:

The Real Subliminal Hack (That Actually Speeds Up Results)

So I recently realized something that totally shifted how I use subliminals… and now I get it:

Subliminals are just tuners. They’re not there to create your desire or force results out of nowhere. They’re there to help you tune your energy to the frequency of the version of you who already has what you want.

Once I stopped thinking of subliminals as shortcuts or miracle tools and started treating them as energetic support, everything got a lot clearer. I’m just getting back into using subliminals again, and this is the approach I’m applying to my new journey right now.

What’s wild is I’ve actually already experienced results from this tuning approach without even realizing it at the time. A while back, I was listening to heart chakra frequency music without expecting anything dramatic—I just knew it was helping me align. The next day, I noticed I was pouring so much love into myself without even trying. That’s what tuning is. It wasn’t forced. It just happened, because the energy had time to settle.

Here’s how it works. When you listen to a subliminal—let’s say for clear skin or long hair—you’re exposing your energy field and subconscious mind to that frequency. And when your body feels safe enough to receive it, the tuning “clicks” and you start to feel and act like the version of you who already has it. The shift is energetic before it’s physical, but ironically, when you stop forcing the results and let yourself stay tuned, they tend to show up pretty fast.

But the key is tuning intuitively. Some days your body will only need to hear the subliminal once. That’s enough. Other days, you might feel naturally drawn to loop it a few times, or even overnight. The difference is whether you’re looping from trust or from fear. If you’re thinking “maybe I need to listen again or it won’t work,” that’s pressure—not alignment. And pressure creates static. Discernment and body awareness are everything.

To hold the frequency after listening, don’t overthink it. You don’t need to visualize 24/7 or act perfect. Just breathe into the version of you who already has it. Relax into it. Remind yourself, “I already tuned. My energy knows. The physical is just catching up.” That’s the most powerful thing you can do.

If you already feel worthy and safe receiving what you want, this mindset shift changes everything. If self-worth is something you’re still working on, that’s totally valid too—just focus on tuning into self-worth first. […]

Results come faster not when you do more, but when you stop pushing and finally feel like you can receive. That’s all tuning is. That’s what makes it work. Remember!! We are the instruments.

also I’ll definitely give updates/results of using this mindset shift/method with the subliminals im listening to! and I guess I’ll call it the tuning method lol idk but I just need a name so when I update yall ya know what im talking about lol!! and hey patience is your best friend, we aren’t all perfect so im not saying you will get results overnight but once your body starts feeling safe with the use of subliminals and the topics that you listen to, you will actually most likely start to get results overnight. It’s all about familiarity. Understand that. :smiley:

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Work from alignment not from forcing things.

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That’s the switch from Q to ZP, and it’s about finally catching up with it. That’s the very cornerstone of the most optimal framework.

Back in 2021, when I was testing ZP, I compared it to Q by saying that Q felt like carving out pathways of manifestation, whereas ZP felt like effortlessly flowing through those that already existed within me and my reality.

Don’t try to tame the beast beneath—enjoy the flight on its wings. Trust it and embrace the unknown.

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Perhaps I missed something but, do the last posts are related to this topic? :rofl: If so, my mistake. :crazy_face:

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You’re in the wrong forum for that mindset :grin:

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@Judoka whats.the latest with Stark Version 2 “The Light That Blinds” Diid you have any private exchange messages with guru ?. Maybe guru knows something.

Fun fact of the day

Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes by :exploding_head:

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In the context of the UK, yes, that was true in the 1960s mainly because the majority of large organizations were owned by the government.
However, these organizations were often inefficient, and taxpayer money was used to keep them afloat, even when they were operating at a loss. Then Thatcher came along and aimed to improve efficiency through privatization.

Which made absolute sense more competition less inefficiency, loyalty to the shareholder = employees must work harder and meet targets.

Not be like lazy f**kers who worked under goverment rule they didnt give a shit as they knew they had a job fir life.

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Another fun fact:

100% of the people who do not understand the difference between correlation and causality DIE

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Although I can’t speak to the UK’s situation, “laziness” isn’t a function of private or public ownership. It’s a function of someone’s level of consciousness. I’ve seen really good workers as well as those who just do the minimum required not to get fired in both public and private employment spaces.

And yes I agree with the idea that “grinding” is a new concept. It’s a narrative shift, designed to fulfill an agenda, and not a timeless truth.

To bring it back to the subs, the level of self awareness makes a lot of difference in how people act, and some of the subs like RoM, HeO, Alchemist and others do help in raising that. Anything that helps challenge your preconceptions about how you think about the world. Your relationship to work, being of service, money and resources, investigating your attitudes to these can make a big difference in your manifestation.

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Yet another fun fact:
The community has been wating for the announcement in this thread for over two weeks now.

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Another fun fact:
Nearly every hand you’ve ever shaken has had a dick in it at one point or another.

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I dont know man, but considering they will have to also relase Hero Multistager 2,new beyond limitless and potentially hero origins update it might be a while,i think ill just make a stark+wanted custom now and update when the sub gets updated lol

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My friend I think the working environment makes a huge difference to the productivity of the workers in fact much more so I feel then any subliminal product.

I speak for the goverment departments in the uk and the netherlands. Shoddy, employees in these oeganizations have thr luxury to hide behind the process and so very little work is done. Whilst the team leads dont give a toss.

So anyway enough said.back to Sub talk.

Stark Volume 2 “The Blinding Light” where are you :smile:

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