Can i do that?
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Haha, being on Emperor ZP made me realize that if I keep doing (or not doing) things based on other’s ideals and/or moral codes, then I’m never going to be able to achieve the life I desire and want 
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In a way, I guess even my subconscious was trying to tell me that in my dreams, that I shouldn’t be bothered by doing what other’s would consider right or wrong, instead, I should follow my own path, my own ideals and my own morals.
That’s what an Übermensch would do too .
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I don’t think this is an issue of considering doing steroids right or wrong. I agree you should not worry about that. You should consider, however, what steroids can do to your health. If you are aware of the implications and willing to risk it, then by all means go for it, regardless of what others think.
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This is one thing that has also changed since hopping on emperor, which is my risk assessment.
While yes, there are some major risks to doing steroids, I wouldn’t need to use more than just something basic (like test at 500mg per week), why?
Well, subs aren’t the only things I respond well to 
(RAD-140, 12 weeks, 10mg a day, gained 7kg, while the majority get like 3-4kg of lean muscle max)
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I used to be very cautious when I was younger, now that has taken a 180 and I am willing to try whatever seems interesting to me.
I am on Dianabol (been for a few months), but I am running out and then I plan to stop.
I’m mostly taking it because it can have a permanent positive effect on the muscle growth: Steroids can benefit athletes for a decade after use - BBC News.
I’ve gained a good amount of weight on it. The past 4 months I’ve probably gained around 9 kg (which certainly is not fat!) – simply eating more and taking the Dianabol.
Injections seem overkill to me, but test alone is certainly better than any orals. The body knows how to handle testosterone better than anything.
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Guys, guys this is not a thread about lifting, back to Emperor, please.
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And if anything, a good PCT, along with Paragon ZP (for healing), and EmZP with WZP (to make those gains permanent) is the best way to ensure I’m not risking my health (too much).
In fact, something about EmZP is very interesting because even though I would have normally gone a bit overboard with my plans, the mental toughness (I don’t know if that’s what I should call it) has been making me understand that I need to take it one step at a time, and it has been like that with many other things (like gaming).
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That’s interesting, i didnt see that on EQ
im excited to report back on Emperor ZP and how it effects me
Since I didnt see any interesting results on Q maybe ZP cuts the real deal 
and ill be an example
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jimmy on steriod was something else
M m m m m m kay
Average steroid enjoyer
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Ya. But I still know people who reported that they were kinda beast on emperor v2(before Q) and emperor v4 (before Q)
. But listening time was 16 hours a day that time 
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Now see only 15 mins a day and enough 
The name Subliminal Club itself is power now
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@SaintSovereign Is Emperor the best sub to be more efficient, organized, and structured or is that a different sub entirely?
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It can be. Depends on whether you really want to embody those goals or not.
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If you are in your twenties, have good genetics, and doing steady progress at gym going for artificial testosterone boost is overkill.
Unless you are entering into competition.
By the way, i think that any sub that instills masculine dominance and power will boost natural testosterone by default. There is no other way.
The same way, if a sub is designed to make you feel happy it somehow will engage serotonine or dopamine. Every feeling, state of mind correlates some chemical configuration.
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Yes
Nice words
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Thanks, man
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I’m VERY glad for this. I’m a skinny guy…
On the larger perspective, I want EZP to be as focused as possible… so fat burning doesn’t help the main goals. Even “physical shifting” in general seems unnecessary with the release of HERO coming one day.
If I wanted physical shifting I would listen to hero or wanted. For now I worry that any physical shifting only distracts from why I listen to emperor. Confidence, mindset, money, status, intelligence.
I do understand a little bit of physical shifting, especially facial and voice shifting, would aide the goals of EZP, but overall I look forward to a tightly focused zp experience.
I do sleep more than usual on ezp, and i get better results listening to less loops, so making ezp less energy intensive by removing physical shifting (if it’s dense) might be a benefit.
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Anecdotally, I would say it is, at least right now.
This might change when everything is ZP, but I’ve seen MASSIVE improvements in my efficiency, organization, and structure. ESPECIALLY efficiency. But i also have started to have a more clearly organized task-board that I use regularly, and I haven’t “forgotten” to do any tasks in a long time (which i usually do due to disorganization).
As for structure, it feels like emperor has both machine:action and machine:rest in it.
My biggest surprise is how much Emperor ZP has improved my relationship. Sexual passion is up. Loving interactions are up. Personal happiness is up. Hope for the future is up. Fighting is way down (currently non-existent, though it’s okay if it sparks back up again a bit… fights are normal).
My girlfriend has been listening to subs too lately which also helps.
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Yes. I agree with you. However, Emperor was the best all in one title, fat burning never is bad if the title models you as your ideal emperor.
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Started Emperor ZP day of release after doing my first 21 day cycle with wanted and rich.
New stack is emperor ZP, Rich, and I’ve just included godlike masculinity. My results have been absolutely the best I’ve seen in any program I’ve used, although not quite in the way I expected. I initially intended this to be an entrepreneurial stack and get my money/ life situation handled as I’ve been way over invested in my sex/social/dating life over the past 4 months. What happened instead is that it absoutley skyrocketed those areas, and while I’ve noticed a slight increase in my finances, I’ve been so overwhelmed by my dating life that I haven’t had much time to put effort into business and saving.
Socially, people are treating me completely different. My friends are extremely insecure around bringing girls around me. It’s to the point where they will tell me to stop eyeing up there girl and that they think I’m always trying to fuck them, and the girls will comment how they are just being insecure because of how good looking I am and that I can get sex whenever I want too 
. I’ve also noticed a general increase in respect that I get from men, and women, and a lot of the women I’m dating now will literally tell me they love how I am the alpha male of the group and how dominant I am with them.
My sex life has also become absolutely unreal. I’ve had sex with more new girls than any other seduction sub I’ve used in the past, anywhere from 3-4 per week, on top of having one serious relationship, and one other pretty consistent side girl. The dynamics of the relationships have also completely changed. I went through a serious simping phase toward the end of my last relationship, and ended up getting back together with her since I got her pregnant a couple months ago. Since than she has had a complete shift in behavior towards me, being way more submissive, getting really jealous, buying me things, and she’s even okay with me sleeping with other girls. Same type of behavior with my main side chick right now where she just jumps my bones multiple times a day, like it’s almost become a competition between the two of them of who can please me more .
I would 100%. Attribute this to zero point. I’ve gotten results in the past but it always felt like I was trying to get girls where as now it’s like they just kind of assume that I’m going to sleep with them because I’ve ironed out all the quirks/ insecurities and weakness from my personality. I talk with more conviction, I always know what to say, and I really feel like I just radiate a vibe that I am getting laid a lot.
With all that being said having sex 15-20 times a week is getting incredibly exhausting and I really need to find a way to balance this out with my work life .
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