Main Disc. Thread -- Emperor Black: Twilight of the Gods (Q Module available!)

It must be recon IMO. It was already mentioned its a harder title to run. So this was kind a expected at some point. After a washout you are good to go. Maybe cutting down the time to 3mijs or 5mins will give you more control over the sub later on ? But the thing is the EMP BLACK ride was awesome in so many ways right ? :grin:

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Nah I’m not a fan of this whole 3 mins or 5 min loops lmao smh

Please don’t get me started on how much I hate that

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I see. :man_shrugging:

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I also enjoy the full loops better

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I’ll get you started.

Why do you hate it? What did shorter loops ever do to you? Where’s the animosity stemming from?

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:moyai::moyai::moyai::moyai::moyai::moyai:

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Yes, I stopped running it after two months because I found myself too detached, and emotionally numb whilst dissecting life rather than enjoying it. Nonetheless, it’s a great sub that gave me a lot of invaluable insights and helped me define my identity and core values more precisely.

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Can anyone explain why this happens?

On 11th i ran quantum limitless st4 first and then i ran emp B. I noticed in my overall day, the overall vibe of the day was of Quantum limitless(for two days),its like there were effects of both, but it felt like Quantum limitless was the main sub and EMP B was just a small addition . But today i ran EMP B earlier and then QL. Today my overall vibe is more of EMP B than QL. Same thing happened when i was experimenting WANTED EXP and EMP B. I ran wanted earlier then EMP B. My overal vibe was that of wanted with EMPB effects for two days.

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My IMHO. Pre-framing phenomena. First sub pre-frames the perception of the second one.

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This actually makes sense. Though i was thinking if there could be another explanation? Have u ever experienced it ?

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If I understand correctly, the first sub is always the more dominant one. How can this be explained?

The subconscious mind has decided which part is processed or which parts are processed would be one explanation.

A second would be that the stack is full and the current capacity is almost used up by the first sub.

Healing sub always have top priority, but that is only the case with QL4 and does not apply here.

I think the whole thing will remain a mystery. We don’t know what our subconscious mind does. But it is an interesting observation and maybe there is a better explanation.

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Ig this the case. I noticed it recently. Its interesting how stack works :v:

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This has been something I explained last year as the T-shirt and perfume theory; first sub becomes the archetype (inner feeling), second sub becomes the mindset (for action).

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Can you share the link of your theory @Invictus ?

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Interesting point of view but why is the first sub the t-shirt and the second the perfume on top. Would be interesting to find out how the subconscious mind handles this.
must have something to do with the processing of the information.

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Taken from a private DM with Saint, so no links for that :stuck_out_tongue:

As for a link within a journal (as not all of my theories and concepts were shared publicly), here’s something from the time of Emp + Stark:

According to what I’ve learned over the course of last year, it’s mainly due to how information gets processed, as the first sub goes the deepest (this is also why it’s recommended by many users to always keep the healing subs first in a stack), and then every sub that follows the first one is just an addition on top.

Yes, you get long term effects from both subs, however, in the day you run them, the second sub will feel more like a case of a phone than the phone itself :grin:

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This post makes things clearer. Thank you :+1:

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Here is some very interesting information about the consciousness and also the effect of subliminals.

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EXACTLY that’s exactly how I feel.

Super detached and lack of feeling is the perfect way to describe it

It’s like I’m way too observational

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Mmh, this is so intriguing. For me after two cycles on Emperor Blak, it is the exact opposite.

On EB I feel more present and connected to everything around me, both mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. I wonder… is it because my baseline level is a scattered and already disconnected ADD-mind, and EB helps me tune in to everything instead by strengthening my focus and awareness in general?

Curious.

I would love to know if anyone else (with add/adhd?) has experienced anything similar from EB.

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