I’m not even sure it’s that with him. I’m not on the forum a lot but I’ve seen him banned multiple times and I’d be concerned about whether there’s an underlying mental illness there and whether subs are even a good idea for him. Not a doctor so take my opinion with a grain of salt but I am an old guy and I’ve seen a lot.
I ran this once last night about two hours before bed. I thought it would potentially negatively impact my sleep but was willing to chance it since it was a highly anticipated release.
It didn’t impact my sleep at all. Had a good night, even with my wife which happens rarely these days as we usually can’t stay awake longer than the kids to be intimate.
Slept well. The extra hour gained due to daylight savings helped.
I’ve been very productive this morning, tackling several jobs around the house and going for a three mile run which I haven’t done in years.
Normally on a Sunday I’d be contemplating my navel all day and writing garbage in a print journal but today it was wake up, cup of coffee, get moving.
Very pleased so far.
Isn’t it that amazing, eh!
I posted a Fight Club quote yesterday but I didn’t really realize how Fight Club is actually an allegory for the shadow self
James how is EB going for you ? what goals are you working towards ? how you feel ?
Think I’m gonna like this one…another journal reference for this who may be wondering about how EB blooms on a rest day…this’ll be the last time I plan to link my journal to this thread. I’ll just leave results in my personal journal moving forward.
I’m already starting to see signs that EB is perfect for developing aspects of my being I’ve been trying to heal, embrace and integrate for a very long time. With LBFH I ascended into divine heights with many aspects of my being but I know I need to embrace the “darkness “ within in order to evolve further and become more complete.
With LBFH I a learned to embrace my shadow aspects with love, wisdom and lack of judgment, because of this I now feel that I have more access to aspects of my psyche that I didn’t before. I have a lot to explore and EB is helping to rapidly make me aware of it. I’m far from done with my self development journey which has been ongoing for 12 years already.
I’m wondering if the primal mind set might focus you on emperor type goals.
Where are you going?
Hey… Just wondering on what’s an ideal stack for this?
I was thinking adding this with Emperor and HoM? Or Chosen?
I felt the push to be productive myself all day. I wasn’t feeling the best physically but got everything I needed done right before noon and worked on a Java course I have been procrastinating on
@ksub
I am going to run this with Dragon Reborn and Executive. I want to be completely focused on productivity. Very little to no internal or external drama.
Happy birthday!
A funny thing : I have been complaining to my neighbors against the barking of his 3 dogs. Very difficult to concentrate so I use headphones. Right after listening to EB yesterday, I was thinking “I hope these dogs can leave this place”. Today not a noise at all. I don’t see the dogs. But I see the neighbor and I asked where his dogs are. And he told me that the owner of the house threatened him to eject him if he keeps his dogs barking ! So he transferred his dogs to another place
This is pure manifestation
Kinda weird that I saw the same exact quote this morning on Instagram and I’d not seen it before
Okay then
Seems like I gotta get my answers myself
I’m sure physical shifting in an indirect sense (not directly scripted, in other words) due to the very unique nature of this archetype will be reported on shortly. In fact, the potential self-dominance factor alone in this title would seem to me to naturally guide/effect one’s physical body into a more self reliant, powerful stature, build, and posture.
Are posture and stature the same thing?
Of course, Fire will have a better answer if he decides to answer.
This is just me theorizing on the second half but, it would seem best to me to wait on that sort of focus for when one is reintegrating into society proper.
A normal Emperor/Stark custom makes more sense if you want that independence but still want that social vibe that you (seem to) go for.
This item is listed under the Emperor Objectives:
- Body shifting — muscles, physical shifting, fat burning, increasing overall toughness.
It is not listed under the Emperor Black Objectives.
On the other hand, you probably noticed that up above in this thread, Fire wrote:
So, that’s why I think it’s more about unstoppable core focus rather than physical shifting. I don’t think it would make as much sense to include physical shifting in Emperor Black. Seems like it might bloat the program. Physical shifting seems to belong more in programs that are intended to be played for extended periods of time. Emperor Black seems to be more like a bullet train of focus and force of will. Like an arrow that shoots straight for exactly what you want and nothing else. (In other words, for the person who does not want physical shifting, including that specific scripting might be more of a distraction.)
On the other hand, I think that your conscious guidance @Invictus will probably direct Emperor Black to contribute to physical shifting. Think of all of the physical shifting scripts that you have already internalized and processed into your mind. It’s just there ready to be used when you want or need it.

don’t think it would make as much sense to include physical shifting in Emperor Black. Seems like it might bloat the program. Physical shifting seems to belong more in programs that are intended to be played for extended periods of time. Emperor Black seems to be more like a bullet train of focus and force of will. Like an arrow that shoots straight for exactly what you want and nothing else. (In other words, for the person who does not want physical shifting, including that specific scripting might be more of a distraction.)
You’re right, that was also the assumption I had.
That instead of having physical shifting, it would just push me into overdrive with training instead, which would result in better effect of the physical shifting from my custom

On the other hand, I think that your conscious guidance @Invictus will probably direct Emperor Black to contribute to physical shifting. Think of all of the physical shifting scripts that you have already internalized and processed into your mind. It’s just there ready to be used when you want or need it.
Thing is, I’ve noticed that even with my conscious guidance, unless Emperor is in play, I feel like I can’t bulk as much, like I look good and more proportionate, but I just can’t get that bulky juiced up look without Emperor around, and unfortunately, Emperor to me (even in a custom) can’t be run for long, or else I wreck havoc
I wonder if @Fire would be down to release a pure monster level physical shifting sub, something like Emperor fitness Black, but instead of the monk mode feel, it could have a pure barbaric rage to become a physical monster (think that the OG RAGNAROK scripting would fit here).
Ahhhh one could wish
On a side note: already noticed an effect, but I’m not sure if it’s EB, or the assumed boost of Khan’s presence due to EB but this one annoying guy at work was coming to annoy me, almost came next to me to start doing his usual morning BS, but then stayed silent for a couple seconds, greeted me formally, and left.
Funny thing is, I didn’t care to acknowledge his presence when he came, totally unbothered.