Main Disc. Thread - Ecstasy of Gold ZP v2

Asking those who´ve run EoG3 and RICH before:

Assuming I´ve completed my healing on stage 1 and have 2 potential pathways for money to manifest, which sub would act faster?

From my understanding, RICH would squeeze cash as fast as possible through already existing channels while EoG3 would put more focus on building new and scaling up, hence take a little bit longer?

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Neither would be as good as running both

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Especially after both are updated with NWE

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In January I listened to EOG 1, In February I listened to EOG 2, afterwards I stopped, to pick back up do I begin at EOG 3 or do I go back to EOG 1? Same question regarding Dragon Reborn Multistage…

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@Carsmones

I think you should be okay to go back to EOG Stage 3 after a break. I’ve done it myself. I did EOG Stage 2, took a 3 week vacation then went to my stack with EOG Stage 3.

With Dragon Reborn, I don’t know.

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@ksub @Jouissance @AlexanderGraves @Malkuth @Floridianninja @TheGreenMan @Tobyone

And all the others, interested in an upgrade for EoG.

What would we need from un upgraded EoG?
What would we want it to have?

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EoG is already a really good product, in my opinion the only thing it needs more of is increased manifestations

And a tune up of what it already does, even though that part is done really well.

Also maybe more of inner circle type scripting within it would help.

Either way it’s already excellent (8/10)

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  • Time accumulation of experience , the manifestation of certain opportunity till the flourish time … can be less more

  • The unending flow of sales … Why sell by 150000 euro in month why not do it in two weeks and the month becomes 300000 Euro

  • Opportunities for opening more business … more business portfolio of business why building 3 business in 2 years what about building 6 business in 2 years .

  • certain products regarding offline business flourish in certain times of the year . What about making it flourish all the year.

  • protection scripting from LBFH

I will keep posting about that and I love the idea of working on the product when you are inspired …

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To be honest, I’m not excited about the upgrade to EoG. I went through all the stages back when it was first released and it was great.

I’m at a point where I see a real possibility for never running a wealth based sub again. The possibility is still smaller than me running it, but I simply don’t feel the need for it currently.

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Also more stuff for investing, making deals, finding the best opportunities. To deal with stocks, real estate and stuff like that, not only businesses - maybe it’s already in EOG, I’m just starting it so forgive my ignorance…

more flow state scripting for working on wealth

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This is better for HoM honestly

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thought like that too but EOG is kinda the ultimate money sub so it makes sense in there

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That would be IMO a good start.

No matter which wealth path you want to take, for pretty much every specific one there is a great subclub option on menu. (RICH Crypto for trading, RM for making a living as an artist, ASBR, E, ASR for empire building, TS for salesmen, HoM for networking etc.). It wouldn’t make sense to include too much of the specialized aspects into EoG maybe with the exception of RICH. Most traders running EoG would also run RICH Crypto, most people in sales running EoG would also run TS.

EoG would make most sense as a kind of Synergy 4stager, a foundational sub, covering all the universal aspects of making money.

Most important is the integration of the NWE (maybe supercharged with aspects from Daredevil and Limitless).

St. 1. would probably be healing/destroying the wealth ceiling and identifing and eradicating all other given limitations (aspects of Limitless would make a lot of sense, working on language, social barriers etc. maybe with elements from Dragon Rising: Gold?).

St. 2. Skills - universal stuff like:

  • risk assessment
  • negotiating
  • embracing a holistic approach
  • management
  • building corporate structures
  • ROI
  • time management
    etc.

St. 3. Manifestations: Money, ideas & opportunities.
Probably kinda related to RICH.

St. 4. all of the above or maybe a spiritual approach if it’s more a collection of 4 subs without strict order. (maybe energy work with money equalling energy, and/or a supercharged Sultan reflecting your wealth in your place/world/surrounding. Coming back to the name, a kind of positive decadence might be good aspect. Enjoy money and life with it.)

Kinda hard to see which completely new aspects EoG could bring as wealth has been covered so extensively in other subs. (it would be great if inspiration on passive/sustainability systems and how to build them is included.)

It would make sense to check existing modules or aspects of subs:

“Would everyone/most people trying to make money benefit from this aspect?”

If the answer is “yes” it would make sense to include it in EoG. Especially Enhancers would make a lot of sense.

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I agree

I think if they can just upgrade it with NWE it would be perfect maybe add to stage 1 and 2 a bit more

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Don’t forget QL too

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I believe that QL should be a foundation sub similar to Dragon Reborn Red. A person gets their mind and brain right and there isn’t anything they can’t do

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Here’s an idea make a multistage or maybe even just a single stage that combines the ideas of EoG stage 1, QL stage 1, Alchemist Stage 1, and Emperor Fitness Stage 1, maybe add in some Khan Black in there as well lol.

Mind + Body + Soul and some financial healing for good measure

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Posted on the True Sell thread, but, a LOT of thoughts about EOG and what it could be.

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Honestly, though the other subs (barring maybe HoM) seems to be millionaire or multimillionaire subs and a few seem like centi-millionaire subs (like stark black or NR), EoG (and maybe HoM) should be the multi billionaire or centi billionaire subs.

I see HoM and EoG as subs used by people who want to have goals that span decades. In my view, NR and Stark black seem to be subs that have a view of about five to ten years, the others have maybe a maximum of three years.

EoG and HOM should work with people who have timescales of several decades.

Pushing wealth accumulation to the absolute limit.

Making the best use of yours and others money, yours and others time, yours and others knowledge/experience to make you more money, resources and time in a way that’s a win for everyone involved.

Tapping into the consciousness of the likes of Bernard Renault, Elon musk, Bezos and whoever else.

Making people help you, support you, give you positive reinforcement on your journey as needed, every day, in every way that you need.

Ability to manifest, spot and bring in the best people into your fold that will help you with the goal of becoming as wealthy as you want.

Maybe have scripting (if it doesn’t have already) where once you write down your long term financial goals (10+ years), the sub helps you manifest it and move towards it.

Some of the most important aspects of wealth accumulation from what I’ve experienced so far is:

Less wealth and talent ceilings

The right people willing to join and commit

Everyone who joins you has the same mission (increasing share value of the company- best way to do this give the dedicated people shares in it)

Ability to make everyone work harmoniously towards this goal without conflict while everyone still contributed any changes that would be best to do.

Knowing what to change and what to keep the same

Knowing exactly which skill to develop and where to use it

Having the ability to get along with people

Having the ability to spot the wrong people

Having the ability to spot the right and wrong advice (everyone seems to have some and give it)

Know what’s scalable and what’s not

How, where, when and to who to delegate tasks

Knowing what work will bring highest ROI

Knowing what the best talent in people is and effortless bring it out and helping them develop it while staying loyal to you and your mission

Therefore imo, EoG should be something that’s not used by people who want to make 500k a year or have money to buy a few new APs and live in a nice apartment in the city. They could easily get there with stark black, true sell, RICH or NR

It should be for people who think in terms of net worth not income. People who want a minimum of 100million within the next ten years at the very least (likely a lot more than that). People who want to buy several smaller companies, merge them and have them under one umbrella to streamline everything and make marketing costs cheaper.

It should be one where when others see them, they know they’re looking at a future Billionaire not future Millionaire (if they aren’t already a billionaire, and in that case, see them as someone who will 100x their own wealth and anyone else’s wealth that they manage in some way)

One so wealthy that talking about private jets and Bugattis is trivial small talk. Ones whose horses are known to run and win in the most famous races. One who OWNs the golf courses and exclusive private members clubs, not just merely a member.

One who the operators of sovereign wealth funds ask for advice and take it.

I hope I got everything lol.

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A highly complementary nature (similar in degree to Daredevil but rather highly integrative/reframing than through risk taking) would be a good aspect.

EoG could help to monetize the things you love doing but without compromising your passion. Solving the old “if it’s work, it’s no fun” conundrum, would be absolutely fantastic. (Finding an harmonious approach to what sells and what you enjoy doing can be quite hard, but would also be incredibly rewarding.)

IIRC RM, UA and RM:UWX all have a bit of money scripting but I guess it’s a side aspect and there is an awful lot more money related points you could/should work on, especially if you are independent and do most things on your own. Indepence and self-determination could be good aspects too.

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