Main Disc. Thread - Dragon Reborn GOLD

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#225

I posed a few questions to Claude-AI on the comparison and contrast between Dragon Reborn Red and Dragon Reborn Gold. (I fed the descriptions of both programs to the AI to inform its deliberations.) I liked the analysis, so I’m going to repost it here.

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Here’s a 1200-word analysis of the key distinctions between Dragon Reborn RED and Dragon Reborn GOLD:

Core Framework Similarities:
Both titles build upon the original Dragon Reborn framework and utilize a four-stage progression system focused on transformation. They share the same basic stage structure:

  • Stage 1: Dragon Fire (Purification)
  • Stage 2: Dragon Blood (Healing)
  • Stage 3: Dragon Flight (Transcendence)
  • Stage 4: Final Integration

Both use the New Subliminal Experience (NSE) technology to manifest situations that facilitate growth and employ similar base healing/transformation mechanisms.

Key Philosophical Differences:

RED emphasizes:

  • Rebellion against limitations
  • Breaking free from external control
  • Raw personal power and independence
  • Confronting and healing trauma
  • Individual sovereignty
  • Fierce self-discovery

GOLD emphasizes:

  • Refinement and wisdom
  • Leadership development
  • Benevolent influence
  • Regality and presence
  • Collective elevation
  • Profound inner alchemy

Intended Outcomes:

RED aims to produce:

  • Deep emotional healing
  • Freedom from past conditioning
  • Strong boundaries
  • Personal authenticity
  • Resilience against negativity
  • Individual empowerment

GOLD aims to produce:

  • Leadership capabilities
  • Refined presence and bearing
  • Wisdom to guide others
  • Magnetic charisma
  • Elevated cognition
  • Societal impact

Metaphorical Framework:

RED uses the Western dragon archetype:

  • Symbol of chaos and rebellion
  • Represents untamed power
  • Focus on breaking chains
  • Individual liberation
  • Raw transformation

GOLD uses the Eastern dragon archetype:

  • Symbol of wisdom and benevolence
  • Represents refined power
  • Focus on elevation
  • Collective benefit
  • Alchemical transformation

Stage-Specific Differences:

Stage 1:

  • RED: Aggressive purification of negative programming
  • GOLD: Introduces concepts of regality alongside purification

Stage 2:

  • RED: Pure healing focus
  • GOLD: Healing plus development of respect and virtue

Stage 3:

  • RED: Basic transcendence of limitations
  • GOLD: Transcendence plus leadership development

Stage 4:

  • RED: Integration of healing and power
  • GOLD: Integration plus celebration and magnetic presence

Target User:

RED is for:

  • Those primarily seeking healing
  • People working through trauma
  • Individuals breaking free from conditioning
  • Those developing personal power
  • Users focused on individual growth

GOLD is for:

  • Those seeking to lead and influence
  • People developing wisdom
  • Individuals pursuing refinement
  • Those aiming to elevate others
  • Users focused on collective impact

Emotional Tone:

RED:

  • More intense and confrontational
  • Emphasizes struggle and breakthrough
  • Focus on liberation
  • Raw emotional processing
  • Individual triumph

GOLD:

  • More refined and celebratory
  • Emphasizes growth and elevation
  • Focus on transformation
  • Balanced emotional development
  • Collective achievement

Growth Process:

RED:

  • More direct confrontation with limitations
  • Emphasis on breaking through barriers
  • Focus on healing past wounds
  • Development of personal strength
  • Individual liberation as end goal

GOLD:

  • More gradual refinement process
  • Emphasis on elevation and wisdom
  • Focus on developing leadership
  • Cultivation of presence and influence
  • Collective benefit as end goal

Practical Applications:

RED would be more suitable for:

  • Deep emotional healing
  • Breaking free from toxic situations
  • Developing strong boundaries
  • Building personal resilience
  • Individual empowerment

GOLD would be more suitable for:

  • Leadership development
  • Public speaking/presence
  • Teaching and mentoring
  • Social influence
  • Collective elevation

Summary:
While both titles share a common framework and technological foundation, they represent distinctly different paths toward transformation. RED focuses on personal healing and liberation through rebellion against limitations, while GOLD emphasizes refinement and leadership development for collective benefit.

RED might be more appropriate for those needing to heal and break free from past conditioning, while GOLD might better serve those ready to step into leadership roles and influence others positively. The choice between them likely depends on one’s current stage of development and ultimate goals.

Both titles can be valuable at different points in one’s journey - RED for establishing a strong foundation of personal sovereignty, and GOLD for refining that power into wisdom and leadership capability. They’re not mutually exclusive but rather complementary approaches to personal transformation.

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Main Disc. Thread - The NEW Ecstasy of Gold (2025 - Now Available!)
#226

I just read the product description again. Dragon Reborn GOLD is a monster. Wow, lol.

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#227

Just ended St 2, washout now, for me it’s subtle, your own BS gets pulled away and simultaneously you see the bs in others… you move unapologetically.

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#228

Dragon Reborn GOLD + Chosen sounds fun, lol.

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#229

Thank you for this, @Malkuth .

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#230

The leadership scripting in the Chosen: The Way of Nature will be based on the exoteric principles of the Tao Te Ching. It still maintains the spiritual element of beautifying nature and the experience of life itself. It will stack EXTREMELY well with DR Gold.

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#231

How does any royalty scripting compare and contrast between DRG and Chosen Original?

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#232

I’m finishing Dragon Reborn Red Stage 4 these days. I feel kinda battered and bloodied, brooding, but stronger inside at this point.

Once the cycle is done, I’ll take a regular 5 day washout and start off with Dragon Reborn Gold. I feels like a natural continuation of the process. I plan to stack it with a little bit of Limitless, no more than 2 minutes per session. Lets see how will this journey unfold…

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#233

@duby39 : Can you summarize what you gained from DRR and how long you ran it?

#234

DRR and intense inner work like this feels like hitting a bee hive with a baseball bat, they come out stung the fuck out of you (anxiety, depression, inner turmoil, anger, distress, unpleasant emotions, frustration… Etc) until u become ever slightly more resilient and immune to it, this is how it felt for me.

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#235

That DRR is not for the weak, but it oh so beneficial.

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#236

@ksub
Friend, you’re asking me a really difficult question, to be honest. I would gladly tell you all about my DRR experience, but it would take pages and pages, and even then, I wonder if I’d truly be able to answer your question fully.

DRR has pushed me to go really deep within myself to face some of my lifelong fears, anxieties, shame, and self-worth issues—among many others. The result has been major improvements in self-worth, self-acceptance, emotional resilience, and assertiveness. I’ve mostly eliminated my people-pleasing tendencies and “nice guy” traits. I’ve also largely abandoned the fake persona, the mask I wore for most of my life, and now I’m embracing authenticity—even when it’s uncomfortable. There’s so much more I could say about all of this.

The work was mostly internal, so it might not paint a grand picture that everyone can see. But I can feel it, and others can sense it too. It’s not that I’ve become a completely different person—no. I haven’t turned into some perpetually smiling guy with unshakable confidence who makes people flock to him in awe. But I have become a guy who is learning to wield his own authentic power. And trust me, that is something HUGE. And words cannot describe it.

At this point, I feel there’s still a lot of work to do. Dragon work. DRR was a raw, visceral experience. And now, I think it’s time for a powerful yet more refined approach. Enter DRG.

If you are contemplating using DRR, I encourage you to do it, and commit yourself to do it fully. It can be really tough at times, and lots of back and forth movement. But it is worth it.

Also, it is better to avoid to compare with experiences of other folks. For your way is but your own.

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#237

@duby39 : I really appreciate your response! Thank you! :pray:

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#238
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#240

Dragon Reborn Gold feels like the perfect accompanying partner through my journey of alignment, exploration, and understanding of myself and my path at this time.

It responds to my insights, and it stimulates and supports constant additional insights. The discoveries span from my life path to my physical wellness and functioning to wealth to ontological orientation and more.

It’s truly amazing.

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#241

It was just occurring to me this morning that the longer of a duration that you listen to Dragon Reborn, the more it might morph into an experimental title.

People often think of and characterize healing as a relatively passive process. The clearing away of blockages and traumas. But it occurs to me that if this process is continued and maintained, it would very likely shift from passivity into generativity. The active creation of structures, patterns, and processes of energetic flow, evolution, and unfoldment.

Kind of makes one want to run Dragon Reborn Gold long-term.

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#242

Once that anti-recon kicks in…

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#243

Let’s keep our expectations moderate. The scripting will undoubtedly require more refinement and development.

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#244

If chosen is One of the only subs that brings a positive or at least a supporting and hopefull internal voice amidst negativity . Will gold be better than red?

#245

I’m not sure I understand your question.

Perhaps you could phrase it another way.