There is a reason why you have tension in the pelvic floor in the first place. For example For me when there is a stressful situation i start to clinch my muscles (especially the pelvis and my jar).
Best sub for this is sanguine. It helps to ease you mind and helps to release the tension from your body.
Read the objectives.
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Thank you, luckily I have this in my KB LB Custom that I plan on starting soonish 
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Itās been almost 2 years since NDE dropped and I can hardly find any results. Can someone running BDLM explain how BDLM is different since the addition of NDE? Or if anyone is running the NDE Core, details of how that works would be greatly appreciated.
Requesting this healing scripting when updating Paragon Complete.
Being comfortable with oneās current health situation which in turn clears blockages (or givss time to clear blockages). After which physisal healing occurs.
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Subtle- thatās how Iād describe my experience with this oneā¦ using basic me & ppe modules in customs instead nowā¦ not wasting slot in stack
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Most people donāt want to post publicly regarding this title or the NDE, and I canāt post direct support results for obvious privacy reasons, but I can summarize. Basically, the number one result with NDE is that people discovered some technique and figured out how to refine it (like coming up with their own version of jelqing) that lead to good results. Others found mechanical means (like those stretching devices) that worked for them greatly.
The best way to test this title is to just test it. We launched it with the same 30-day guarantee as the other titles because we stand by it. You should see SOME result within 30 days ā even if itās something like stronger erections and / or vascularity.
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Fine, Iāll be the guy.
From 6.25 inches BPEL to 7.25 inches BPEL (stable and seemingly permanent without continued training).
Method used: bathmate hydromax
Training Schedule: 3 days/week 3-5 minuet āsetsā with a 2 min break between sets done after the shower.
The above note about training will make more sense if someone actually buys the product, or reads the instructions on the website.
I stopped training when I reached 7.5 inches BPEL because I was genuinely worried about becoming too big. So I stopped and hoped that it was just it would āshrinkā a little bit. It did, and now Iām very happy with my size.
To those wondering how it would āshrinkā well you pretty much get a āpumpā when using the product, and similar to weight lifting, you are bigger with a pump than you āreally areā.
So yeah, idk. It works.
The above was achieved with Wanted Black/BDLM (both have the NDE).
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Thanks for sharing. It will be powerful for others to see specific results
Iāve been very tempted to use Bathmate, but I hear some mixed stories about its safety. Do you have comments on or understanding with this?
It sounds like your results were very enhanced with BLDM, or to what degree do you think the growth was from the technique vs. the subsā physical changes? Obviously, there was some synergy.
@SaintSovereign Is it possible to have growth results without action on BLDM-or a mechanical means like a pump, stretcher, or jelg?
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Thanks GoJo š«” š«”š«”
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Yeah, I do actually. Donāt get egotistical! Lol, the maximum tension is WAY too much for your first couple weeks of use. Go slow and consistent. They recommended 7days a week, I did 3 for enhanced recovery. IDK, that was just my personal feelings. Arguments could be made for either strategy, but I based my strategy off of my understanding of exercise science and treated it like a muscle I was trying to grow.
Add in kegals to keep the pelvic floor strong and solidify the gains.
Do it after showering to make sure the tissues are warm and I would generally do some helicopters to loosen up the tissues before adding tension.
Use WARM water, not scalding hot, not cold.
You want the tissues warm for maximum growth.
Iāve been doing PE on and off since I was a teen. Gained .5 inches from jelqing as a teen (could have just been puberty.
Used bathmate off and on for years prior to subs, never saw lasting gains. Also tried a traction device, was too damn uncomfortable.
So yes, the NDE did work. Maybe all it did was clear blockages to allow the techniques to work? IDK, all I know is that it wasnāt the first time I tried to grow, but the subs made it work and made it permanent.
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One last tip, it takes some practice to use the device properly. It has a funny switch at the top, and the instructions are kinda dog water.
It works by water displacement which creates a 360 vacuum on your egg plant.
So try and ensure that the chamber is 100% full of water. Practice makes perfect.
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Umm, well I ran WB for like 4 months or so, which is where the growth came from.
Ive been on BDLM for about 4 months recently and itās been stable.
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So the growth came from WB not while on BDLM?
Technically yes. Though I do believe it could have occured on either title.
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Interesting results. Did you also experience results without using the bathmate?
Not proven. But Iāve had a about 6 women comment on my size and tell me that Iām almost too big. So, idk. Lol
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I can share my experience with this topic, and yes my results were linked with using WB and Wanted. To me it was just as simple as convincing myself that it was possible, and not only that, but convince myself that it was inevitable. This also meant shutting off all outside channels of opinions, just me myself and I internally.
Actually thinking back it was just not an experiment of physical growth, but a mindset thing and giving me conviction of how powerful my mind is.
So I would say 95% I worked on mindset, and 5% was techniques. I did not use any Bathmate or something, just carefully stretching a couple of short sessions a day. In around two sets of a couple of months within a year or so I grew about just under 2 inches (4.5 cm roughly.)
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Listening to BDLM solo for a month I grew 1cm, mindset only, supported by simple visualization for a minute every couple days, no physical exercises whatsoever.
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WB also makes me a lot bigger and gives my penis some sort of āits so bigā aura. But I feel this comes from relaxing the pelvic floor so deeply. I feel there is this possibility to get a lot of growth from going from a grower to a shower. Like now during listening to KB, my penis changes and grows a lot in non errect form.
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