Im gonna use the one without fame, but I dont think there will be such a big difference in the things Im curious about. So Im open to feedback from both.
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Im about to start KB st3 with LB and SBā¦ KB is my main dish and the other 2, Im gonna do no nore than 3 minutes.
Although Im beginning to feel that SB can take the hot spot and the other 2 can serve as support.
Daredevil on the other handā¦ Im being seduced to do a custom with DD and LB, but that is for later, when Im done with KB.
Density of no fame is still quite high and can absolutely sneak up on you.
Tested it with a normal every other day cycle stacked with Wanted Black.
Effects after 1 week.
Increases in speed of romance, cognitive, and wealth related scripting.
Broke the experiment with a loop of standard SB today for intuitive reasons.
Overall, I think SB no fame is useful and will be a great tool for people who want to duck their head down and temporarily take the fame out for various reasons.
However, SB no fame doesnāt feel complete and probably isnāt a great āalternativeā for those wanting Stark Black without fame.
There are aspects of the SB path that really only make sense with the fame scripting in there. Hard to explain, this is mostly gut feelings.
It feels like itās more useful for people running SB standard who need little breaks from fame to focus on other aspects.
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Thatās an interesting experience. Will be interesting to see if others feel the same.
I started running Stark Black at full length a week ago and now I have had three dreams with Tony Stark in them. That I became his best friend and am his best friend in all my dreams. Is that weird? Anyone else have dreams with Tony Stark in them?
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I havenāt run ASBR yet, but I will see tomorrow. My dreams are very intense at the moment. Should restart a dream journal for fun & giggles.
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If you can try to flesh this out, that would be greatly appreciated. Curious on your thoughts.
For instance, the extreme drive and motivation. Itās still there on no fame, but without fame it feels a little lacking. Iāll just be blunt, it feels a lot easier to work like a demon of youāre doing it to impress people lol.
The romance also feels a little different without fame. With fame, it feels more direct: people are nice to me and do me favors because Iām āfamousā.
I guess I feel as though many of the specific methods by which the script appears to bring about change just feel more logically sound if the ultimate goal is fame and influence.
Make sense?
A better test would be someone whoās never run either version to start with no fame for a cycle or two, then switch to fame.
Part of me wonders if it feels lacking because Iāve been running the fame version too long and Iām biased.
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It sounds like soup without enough salt.
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Beautifully put.
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Iāve ran Chosen but never Stark.
I liked Chosen just wanted it without the leadership, but then I also think that might not be Chosen without the leadership. Itās maybe part of its magic, the whole package. Iām on CWON now but Chosen just seems to be the better package, Iād just have to get more comfortable with all the attention, new LB will be helping me in that aspect.
So with ASBR, fame free version. Iām thinking it could be good for somebody whoās shied away from the spotlight. The under-achiever who never reached their full potential because they didnāt want to deal with the fame and popularity. Maybe they could raise all those attributes to the max level for them just without the fame.
But Iāve settled on running Primal, before just now finding out that thereās this new experimental ASBR. I am looking forward to Primal to zero out any remaining social anxiety so I can level up my social game.
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I canāt even imagine Chosen without Leadership.
The idea is that when you accomplish all of Chosenās objectives, people will naturally and effortlessly SEE you as a leader. Itās what it is.
By the same logic, maybe thatās the issue with no fame ASBR - if you actually accomplish ASBR/ās objectives, people should naturally see you as famous.
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Since running Stark Black, is there anyone one else who looked at his/her goal list and thought: āDamn!!! This stuff is easyā. Even the most challenging goals?
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Yes. Even though it seems far fetched to others, it feels so within grasp to me. Thereās also this knowing that it will happen.
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Exactly! This āeverything is within my reachā feeling is something I already felt on Emperor but not as clearly as on SB. I was thinking about a product I wanted to launch and even two or three weeks back I was still thinking about how much work would be involved and how long it would take. Today, I thought: āI just have to build a team and get them to do itā. Itās that simple. 
Why wasnāt I thinking in terms of teambuilding before SB? 
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Exactly.
I literally went from āI donāt know how, but my business will go from 0 to 30k in 6 monthsā to āI could make 20k in two weeksā
Execution is different but the mindset of a goal/list becoming āeasyā is STRONG on ASBR
If you can dream it you can achieve it
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Letās see if more people chime in with the same feeling. This āwithin reachā feeling could be part if the script.
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Someone begged me not to leave Khan crew and I was too intrigued not to try full-on fame ASBR now (in case it gets nerfed)
So, I spent all afternoon reworking existing customs to add ASBR in what became two monster customs I ordered lol
Hereās ASBR customā¦
āHog Nasty RICHā ZPv2 MAX 
Summary
01 Alexanderās Play
02 Approachability Aura
03 A Stark Black Reality Core
04 Carpe Diem Ascended
05 Faith Unyielding
06 Fenrir
07 Fortuneās Favorite
08 Free Pass
09 Gorgeous Manifestor
10 Jupiter
11 Khan ST4 Core
12 Manipulus
13 Mosaic
14 Nouveau RICH Core
15 Sexual Manifestation
16 SPS: Endocrine System
17 Sultan
18 Untouchable
19 Void of Creation
20 Wealth Limit Destroyer
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The downside of fame: people who you not know think they know you.
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I added protection in my custom.
People are already testing my status with New Khan and I wasnāt gonna chicken out of an incredible year.
I think I can say, this may be the best overall year of my life, at 45, and I attribute much of my gains from using sub club customs.
Itās funny how in real life, none of my friends and family accept this claim. 
Only my anonymous friends understandā¦ Alas!
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