I would counter that Brad Pitt wouldn’t be Brad Pitt…
Without fame.
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Im gonna use the one without fame, but I dont think there will be such a big difference in the things Im curious about. So Im open to feedback from both.
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Im about to start KB st3 with LB and SB… KB is my main dish and the other 2, Im gonna do no nore than 3 minutes.
Although Im beginning to feel that SB can take the hot spot and the other 2 can serve as support.
Daredevil on the other hand… Im being seduced to do a custom with DD and LB, but that is for later, when Im done with KB.
Density of no fame is still quite high and can absolutely sneak up on you.
Tested it with a normal every other day cycle stacked with Wanted Black.
Effects after 1 week.
Increases in speed of romance, cognitive, and wealth related scripting.
Broke the experiment with a loop of standard SB today for intuitive reasons.
Overall, I think SB no fame is useful and will be a great tool for people who want to duck their head down and temporarily take the fame out for various reasons.
However, SB no fame doesn’t feel complete and probably isn’t a great “alternative” for those wanting Stark Black without fame.
There are aspects of the SB path that really only make sense with the fame scripting in there. Hard to explain, this is mostly gut feelings.
It feels like it’s more useful for people running SB standard who need little breaks from fame to focus on other aspects.
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That’s an interesting experience. Will be interesting to see if others feel the same.
I started running Stark Black at full length a week ago and now I have had three dreams with Tony Stark in them. That I became his best friend and am his best friend in all my dreams. Is that weird? Anyone else have dreams with Tony Stark in them?
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I haven’t run ASBR yet, but I will see tomorrow. My dreams are very intense at the moment. Should restart a dream journal for fun & giggles.
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If you can try to flesh this out, that would be greatly appreciated. Curious on your thoughts.
For instance, the extreme drive and motivation. It’s still there on no fame, but without fame it feels a little lacking. I’ll just be blunt, it feels a lot easier to work like a demon of you’re doing it to impress people lol.
The romance also feels a little different without fame. With fame, it feels more direct: people are nice to me and do me favors because I’m “famous”.
I guess I feel as though many of the specific methods by which the script appears to bring about change just feel more logically sound if the ultimate goal is fame and influence.
Make sense?
A better test would be someone who’s never run either version to start with no fame for a cycle or two, then switch to fame.
Part of me wonders if it feels lacking because I’ve been running the fame version too long and I’m biased.
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It sounds like soup without enough salt.
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Beautifully put.
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I’ve ran Chosen but never Stark.
I liked Chosen just wanted it without the leadership, but then I also think that might not be Chosen without the leadership. It’s maybe part of its magic, the whole package. I’m on CWON now but Chosen just seems to be the better package, I’d just have to get more comfortable with all the attention, new LB will be helping me in that aspect.
So with ASBR, fame free version. I’m thinking it could be good for somebody who’s shied away from the spotlight. The under-achiever who never reached their full potential because they didn’t want to deal with the fame and popularity. Maybe they could raise all those attributes to the max level for them just without the fame.
But I’ve settled on running Primal, before just now finding out that there’s this new experimental ASBR. I am looking forward to Primal to zero out any remaining social anxiety so I can level up my social game.
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I can’t even imagine Chosen without Leadership.
The idea is that when you accomplish all of Chosen’s objectives, people will naturally and effortlessly SEE you as a leader. It’s what it is.
By the same logic, maybe that’s the issue with no fame ASBR - if you actually accomplish ASBR/‘s objectives, people should naturally see you as famous.
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Since running Stark Black, is there anyone one else who looked at his/her goal list and thought: “Damn!!! This stuff is easy”. Even the most challenging goals?
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Yes. Even though it seems far fetched to others, it feels so within grasp to me. There’s also this knowing that it will happen.
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Exactly! This “everything is within my reach” feeling is something I already felt on Emperor but not as clearly as on SB. I was thinking about a product I wanted to launch and even two or three weeks back I was still thinking about how much work would be involved and how long it would take. Today, I thought: “I just have to build a team and get them to do it”. It’s that simple. 
Why wasn’t I thinking in terms of teambuilding before SB? 
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Exactly.
I literally went from “I don’t know how, but my business will go from 0 to 30k in 6 months” to “I could make 20k in two weeks”
Execution is different but the mindset of a goal/list becoming “easy” is STRONG on ASBR
If you can dream it you can achieve it
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Let’s see if more people chime in with the same feeling. This ‘within reach’ feeling could be part if the script.
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Someone begged me not to leave Khan crew and I was too intrigued not to try full-on fame ASBR now (in case it gets nerfed)
So, I spent all afternoon reworking existing customs to add ASBR in what became two monster customs I ordered lol
Here’s ASBR custom…
“Hog Nasty RICH” ZPv2 MAX 
Summary
01 Alexander’s Play
02 Approachability Aura
03 A Stark Black Reality Core
04 Carpe Diem Ascended
05 Faith Unyielding
06 Fenrir
07 Fortune’s Favorite
08 Free Pass
09 Gorgeous Manifestor
10 Jupiter
11 Khan ST4 Core
12 Manipulus
13 Mosaic
14 Nouveau RICH Core
15 Sexual Manifestation
16 SPS: Endocrine System
17 Sultan
18 Untouchable
19 Void of Creation
20 Wealth Limit Destroyer
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The downside of fame: people who you not know think they know you.
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