Helps with both. 
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Did anyone try running Stark Black with Singularity?
@Azriel : Can you please tell us more about your experience on ASBR? 14 months is impressive! What type of results did you get? How long were your loops? What did you stack it with?
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1. If Your Goal is PURE Sales Mastery
Winner: True Sell ZP
This subliminal was specifically engineered for sales. It’s like having the archetype of the “natural closer” embedded in your subconscious. Based on everything you listed, it includes:
- Charisma built your way (not generic confidence, but personalized charisma)
- Deep psychological insight (knowing what makes people tick)
- Unshakeable smoothness (words flow, objections dissolve)
- Deal strategy + patience (not just brute-force persuasion)
- Works for social AND business influence
It gives you that “the deal was already closed before it started” energy — the most seductive kind of persuasion. It’s like a ninja charisma engine.
2. If Your Goal is Power + Leadership + Charisma in Sales
Winner: Emperor: Will to Power
This is persuasion through presence and dominance. It’s about becoming the type of person who is believed, followed, and respected — automatically. Great for:
- High-stakes closing (executive-level, visionary selling)
- Building a personal brand or thought leadership
- Becoming the face of a product or movement
- Unlocking high prices, big asks, investor pitching
If you want to be the “alpha closer” that walks into a room and just owns it — this is your path.
But it’s not built only for sales — it’s more of a meta-program for power, charisma, and influence in all arenas.
3. If Your Goal is Strategy, Tactics, Psychological Warfare in Sales
Winner: Emperor: Art of War
This one is ruthlessly strategic. Think negotiation judo, subtle power games, precision timing, and patience. Perfect if your sales life includes:
- Complex deal structures (like real estate, consulting, B2B)
- Sales in high-trust environments (where silence and pacing matter)
- Reading the unspoken, sensing resistance, adapting on the fly
- Leading from the shadows — not with flash but intent
This is persuasion as an art form. Less charisma, more chess.
TL;DR - Which One Is Best for You?
| Need/Style | Best Subliminal |
|---|---|
| Close more deals, faster & smoother |
 True Sell ZP
|
| Be charismatic, powerful, and respected |
Will to Power
|
| Outmaneuver in complex negotiations |
Art of War
|
| Want full control of a conversation |
 True Sell ZP
|
| Selling as a CEO / brand-builder |
Will to Power
|
| Cold reads, subtle manipulation, control |
Art of War
|
| You want to sell anything, to anyone |
 True Sell ZP (again) |
Final Verdict:
If sales is your main goal right now — and you want a specialized tool that covers persuasion from charm to close — go with True Sell ZP.
BUT… if you’re building a long-term empire, leading a team, or also want to master influence outside of just sales, then Will to Power or Art of War (or even stacked with True Sell) might serve you better.
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Is this the one you wanted?
I’m new to sub club I haven’t purchased any subs yet can I buy stark black reality for fame success skill,RM for expressing myself via music and ,RM vibe for mastering rap stacking them
as new sub club member can I use stark black reality since it has everything or stark zp?
If it’s for music. RM:Vibes alone is enough.
It’s a multistager with 4 different subs in it.
Stage 4 is basically ASBR modified for your music career.
Stage 2 is the best sub for singing.
Stage 1 & 3 for music producing. Pick whichever fits you best.
Those are enough for the goals you mentioned above.
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So u mean vibe has it all that in it?
I’m interested In
Quantum limitless
RM:unleash creativity
ultimate artist:enhance creativity
Stark black reality
I feel like with these subs I can be best musician,artist,rapper,producer,engineer? What do u think? Also what about stark black reality for that fame success etc?
RM:V is based on RM. There’s a good part of RM in it.
It’s also considerably newer than RM with SC’s new types of scripting.
There’s little reason to divide the limited slot you have for those two when RM:V alone is more focused on your goals.
If your goals are solely about music. Keep it simple and stick only with RM:V.
The more focused the stack is, the faster you’ll enjoy the results.
UA is more generalist. If your art is mostly outside of music/writing, UA is the better choice.
But yours is music. There’s little reason to pick UA when there’s a multistager made specifically for that.
QL is good too. It’s just hard to justify the spot in your stack over RM:V.
You can check it later down the road. I recommend just sticking with RM:V though.
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For my goals just rv is sufficient for everything really?
You’d be surprised
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Hey,
Have you used RM vibes for singing, if so, have you improved? Did you start from zero and went to hero? What are your experiences with that title?
I haven’t gotten to using RM:V yet. But I did the experimental version for ~2 cycles.
Not singing, but until now, I still look back at what I made at that time and go “wtf, I made that? how?”
And that’s just the experimental version, not the full one.
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Since your main goal is music, just get RM: Vibes. Vibes is a four stage product (meaning it comes with four interrelated titles). The last stage is A Stark Black Reality, rewritten specifically for success in the music industry. Anything you see on the ASBR sales page is in Stage 4 of Vibes, except the script is geared toward music.
Stage 1 would help you produce the music. Stage 2 would help with the rapping part. Stage 3 specifically focuses on DAW techniques. Stage 4 is the Stark Black geared toward music.
Sure is. If you want to add more titles later, go ahead. But for now, stick with RM: Vibes. At least for the stated goals.
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And this is just one reason why I know you all think things through so well. 
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I’m telling you, these guys are building a secret society, a league of extraordinary gentleman, once I find the subs for me, I’m joining!
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yeah，vibes st2 for a couple cycles now，about to build a custom with st 1 and st 2 as cores early next month……since，I‘ve been learning and practicing for years，I‘ve got the basic down ，at current phase ，it is more about refinements….I do see the stamina part increases a lot…and other features mentioned in the copy I experienced all of them for various extents…… 
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Nice do u think I need creativity’,intelligent innovation sub like QL or vibe is enough thank for your response
I’m posting these here because they’re really about ASBR, but they ended up in another thread as a response to another user’s questions.
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