I think he’s just trying to defend Saint & Fire…
I’ve certainly been guilty of going overboard and interfering with honest observations
My success thus far has really only been attracting money and women but it’s been very good
Little success thus far with anything physical or body related
And I freely admit that I regret posting what I did and that I’m a strong supporter of this company and have been and have defended it multiple times.
I would attribute this more to running two of the most dense titles here as well. Lot to process at one time, and on top of that they both hav pretty conflicting goals.
That’s exactly what I now think also. I got some great initial results on the stack, but room for user error is very low, and I’m really probably not developed enough to make use of such advanced concepts all at once.
@praisetheurdtree i think throwing your opinion in to the mix is extremely important. Don’t be discouraged to do so.
I really like reading the forum because it helps me put into words what I was unable to recognize. Or sometimes I’m experiencing something and didn’t even consider it was subliminal related. It’s a world class collection of personal experiences.
I think what Luther’s getting at here, in simple terms, is that changing the language from “ASBR is broken” to “what I’m experiencing right on ASBR is a bunch of positive but a fucked up sex life” makes your post extremely useful as feedback, instead of a judgement on the scripting. Feedback changes things here faster than judgement, anyways.
Feedback gets added to the pool of experiences SC looks at. And it’s unfair to say something in ASBR is broken for sex when so many people are stacking ASBR with Primal Nights or Khan and reporting the craziest sex of their lives.
Even in the relationship front, @Niles is having a good effect on the sex life of his relationship. I’m mildly indifferent but good. You’re going through something. That’s a really cool effect. Everyone is getting the exact same scripting but responding differently.
Then you can start to tease out why.
For me, my partner and I have such a solid sex life that the only thing that could dampen it is me, either my libido dropping, or my workaholic tendencies getting to me, or us spending too much time together without time apart, or emotional conflicts.
For @Niles, of what I know of him (probably wrong but just an example) his sex life is probably crushing it because ASBR is doing well for him work wise, but, more importantly it’s giving him the energy to do well at work and then also come home energized and proud
For you, only you really know what’s happening, but your income has literally tripled, so I could hazard some guesses…
Are you working more? Are you creating fears in your partner that you’ll be too good for her one day and leave her once you “level up?” Are you a little more obsessive? Are you coming off as ambitious and business-like in your relationship instead of more loving and soft? Are you more obsessed with “fame” aka mild attention from many people instead of deep connection from one?
Are you just less interested in sex right now because your subconscious knows if you really figure out what ASBR has to teach you your sex life will 10x?
And if you want to explore the shadow… you’ll be repressing any and all of these that are present but it’s still something to think about, are you perhaps less sexually interested in your partner now because of some new found confidence? Are you imagining the type of partner you “could have gotten” if you were THIS smart and successful back when you were single? Did your partner want a beta male because she has fears about successful men leaving her? Are you healing any sort of self worth, porn addiction, fear of being seen, etc?
If any of those trigger you, just know, they’re all things I’ve thought of, so it’s just me trying to empathize.
Agreed. So, give personal experiences, and let the big dogs with the knowledge of scripting decide if it’s broken or not after looking at how it affects tons of people. They’ve done a good job thus far.
Kind of reminds me of this recent post of @Azriel
What he said is one way to interpret his results.
Another is “khan and WB fuck up my sex life.”
Another is “wow I haven’t had any interest in the women I’ve usually been interested this is amazing, I’m leveling up and not looking back, yay!”
But I like how he did a great job of judging the experience and his reaction to it, not the sub, while still commenting on which effects of the sub were good/bad for him
Everything that you’ve said has given me things to think about and I think you hit the nail on the head of several of the potential issues that might be causing these effects.
Also, I’ll say it again that I agree that the way I went about getting help on this matter was immature, blamey, and perhaps not super helpful.
What you said was helpful, very helpful, I saw several things that are probably causing the issue.
Brother, I already said I agreed with you multiple times. Chill.
If they want to ban me, let it be done.
Read this as giving him the energy to do well at work, and then also come home energized to Pound lol. 
Also, you can say everything you needed and wanted to say in half the words and it’s both more persuasive, and also more impactful.
If you use too many logical arguments to prove a single point, puts your reader to sleep and they stop listening. Or in some situations they agree with you just to get you to stop speaking.
What type of work are you in? If your looking for a strong balance between healthy/engaging sex life and extreme ambition/resilience, Emperor is the only sub which really allowed me to establish this best of both worlds. I would go that route as well as Emperor has more of the general benefits I like, but not the best for my work situation.
Judge the experience always, over time and accounting for other conditions.
Then in a clean environment, experiences over time can yield objective and subjective extrapolations that can be judgements on a sub. They will always be subjective but for people self aware and experienced on subs the may be able to start to comment meaningfully on the nature of the sub itself
Edit: Although in all fairness, I never had the above issues with Khan and WB previously. Although a different version of Khan, I think my response may have been SB related or in combination with Khan.
Hey everyone! @Skadoosh is pointing out something important.
This forum is a place to post your experiences to get input and give data to improve the programs.
If something happened such as, you listened to Khan and then within a week your sex life took a turn for the worst, then post it. Be specific.
Such as “I listened to Khan and a week later my girlfriend started to avoid having sex with me. This has been going on now for three weeks. What might be happening? What might I do?”
In a situation like this, you could guess there is nothing in the Khan script telling your subconscious to put a damper on your sex life, but asking about what’s happening gives you a chance to get input.
Very impressive 
In a few days, taking my ASBR-Khan ZP Custom up to QTKS. Primal and Daredevil can be on the side when I want them.
With a more clear and level head today, and after a loop of PS which helped break the recon of SB,
I would like to politely note that in the 4 months I’ve been on SB, my sex life has in general been rocky and unsatisfactory, also there has, more than once, been some pretty significant tension in my relationship.
Prior to SB I was on WB and Emperor, which is how I met my current partner. Things were great and the sex was lively.
I dropped WB and Emperor, did a proper 12 day washout, and started SB shortly after launch.
After the first loop, I noticed an immediate rift between her and I alongside some social rifts.
I persevered for a cycle, and saw some modest improvements but it wasn’t the same as it was, and things were more tense than they had been previously.
On cycle 2 I added WB back in, and initially things began to improve, possible that it was just switch bloom.
Now here I am about 3 months after launch.
Since the launch of SB I’ve run a single loop of Emperor, a single loop of Sanguine, 2 loops of RoftW, and now 4 loops of PS.
All of this little experimental loops happened with multiple rest days and were isolated incidents separated by weeks.
The prevailing theme here is that for whatever reason I’ve experienced sexual difficulties after running SB that have mostly persisted to the current day.
In these months my monogamous partner and I (same girl) have spoken about it, worked on it, etc. There have been some modest improvements as a result of that.
Now for the kicker. It FEELS as though my partner is no longer as sexually interested in me as a result of something that is triggered in me by SB.
My evidence for this is 3 months of being on it and watching the change happen. Also, by temporarily washing out from SB and running WB in a solo loop (in the same time frame) and seeing her instantly want to sleep with me.
If anything, I would say that I have enough evidence to suggest that most likely she simply isn’t attracted to the SB archetype but loves me inspite of it.
So!
Given that I value her immensely, and given that there are multiple other programs to choose from.
The most logical thing I can do, is just not run SB.
What I would like people to understand is that nothing in this is an attribution of blame, but is perhaps the understanding that certain people are attracted to certain people.
I’m not attracted to women of a certain type, and other men are. Why am I not attracted to them?
Energy, it’s that simple.
Now for a washout.
SB really is a fantastic program, and dispite the challenges, it’s grown me a lot in a lot of ways that will stick around.
I guess you had already decided this before writing because early on, I assumed that she was not only not attracted to the SB archetype, but, also very attracted to WB/Emperor. Both of those have more “pull” dynamics. A little more mysterious. Stark Black is very dynamic, let’s put it that way, and it sounds like your partner isn’t resonating with that.
I’m just wondering, before dropping the sub that literally tripled your income, if you could try listening to WB and ASBR at the same time, and seeing the effect that has. That seems more logical to me than a sub that is driving results in all areas of life except one, but has a work around.
Or maybe making a custom with ASBR, adding in some of those “mysterious” and hyper-dominant modules. Rogue, Total Nonchalance, Lion IV, and Alpha Body Language combine into a synergy module, which you could pair/boost by adding one of those modules alongside it.
Or you could combine Stark Black and WB in a custom. Or, add NRE to an ASBR custom.
One thing you should note, too, is that ASBR is just less sex/romance focused than ASBR. So, it might not be that the “sex scripting” in ASBR is causing you any problems, but perhaps it’s just that when your mind is filled with sex scripting, you do extremely well, but when it’s crowded out by other things, you lose results. This could have nothing to do wiht ASBR’s archetype and could have to do with processing. So again, perhaps a ASBR/WB custom, or a custom focused on ASBR + Sex modules, could help.
venus unveiled, transcendent connection, at the top, beyond seduction, primordial aura, and their individual focus modules could all help.
That’s exactly how I’m feeling about my gpt powered Saas. In less than 7 days an idea I’ve been thinking about for close to 2 years is functional and almost complete.
Every tool I’ve needed has appeared for me.
Need a tutorial? Found the perfect one.
Want to try a gpt powered ide? Found the perfect one?
Don’t know how to code that? Ask an AI to do it and it’ll at least get you in the ball park if not a complete code.
Need a logo and a brand? Got it.
Need a landing page? I adjusted a prompt and got the perfect starter landing page with appropriate marketing copy based what I told it about my project.
I can barely imagine where I’ll be in 6 months at this pace.
Adding in Phoenix has been a game changer. It’s like it’s releasing my brakes in every area. There’s less garbage between me and my goals.
You’ve been my guardian angel through this, and once again, I appreciate everything you’ve said.
For right this moment…I just need a full washout probably. Clear the que, and see what happens and how I feel.
In the last couple hours after writing the above, my GF became super lovey dovey with me, lingering with the kiss and all that jazz…
So, maybe the pinnacle of logic right now is just to stop all subliminal input and let my que clear and see what happens and how I feel.
Lol.
The action of non-action, I guess 