Main Disc. Thread -- A Stark Black Reality (Now Available!)

Sorry to hear that you’re going through a rough patch amigo, no matter what the cause is. Hope you get through it! Regardless, that’s incredible on your income growth and I hope life is more or less on the up rn!

I think I solved it, I think.

WB causes me to revisit the past as part of the self-love scripting. When run alone it causes me to reflect on the past, good times and bad times, and come to peace and acceptance with the man I used to be and the man I am now.

For whatever reason, when I stack it with Stark Black, the past reflection effect causes some pretty severe recon. If I’m right about what I think I just discovered, then it should clear up in a few days and when my new custom arrives, it should be taken care of.

Fingers crossed.

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Thanks brother, it’s on the up and up day by day I get a little closer…I guess I just haven’t been taking my anti-burnout routine as seriously as I should have been.

You’re a bit

Not sure I really understand this statement, to the rest, that’s fair, sure, you’re probably right.

I never thought the subs helped good or bad for sex
Even with Diamond
I just run it for the heck of it

Are you this unlikable in real life too? Just a question.

Though I see your point, though I think it’s valid, and though in a strange way it is helpful. I don’t think is kind of behavior is very useful on the forums either.

Do we really want an environment where people worry to express potential issues, that might be real, and could be due to minor mistakes or oversights, out of fear of being attacked online by a fellow member who’s probably also in severe recon lol.

Look brother, I hear you, I agree mostly.

But there is also the very real FACT that these programs are under constant development and improvement and that it’s not always perfect the first time around.

Whatever, I guess I’ll go storm back to my room and punch holes in drywall now.

Taking a page from your book.

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I think he’s just trying to defend Saint & Fire…
I’ve certainly been guilty of going overboard and interfering with honest observations

My success thus far has really only been attracting money and women but it’s been very good

Little success thus far with anything physical or body related

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And I freely admit that I regret posting what I did and that I’m a strong supporter of this company and have been and have defended it multiple times.

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I would attribute this more to running two of the most dense titles here as well. Lot to process at one time, and on top of that they both hav pretty conflicting goals.

That’s exactly what I now think also. I got some great initial results on the stack, but room for user error is very low, and I’m really probably not developed enough to make use of such advanced concepts all at once.

@praisetheurdtree i think throwing your opinion in to the mix is extremely important. Don’t be discouraged to do so.

I really like reading the forum because it helps me put into words what I was unable to recognize. Or sometimes I’m experiencing something and didn’t even consider it was subliminal related. It’s a world class collection of personal experiences.

I think what Luther’s getting at here, in simple terms, is that changing the language from “ASBR is broken” to “what I’m experiencing right on ASBR is a bunch of positive but a fucked up sex life” makes your post extremely useful as feedback, instead of a judgement on the scripting. Feedback changes things here faster than judgement, anyways.

Feedback gets added to the pool of experiences SC looks at. And it’s unfair to say something in ASBR is broken for sex when so many people are stacking ASBR with Primal Nights or Khan and reporting the craziest sex of their lives.

Even in the relationship front, @Niles is having a good effect on the sex life of his relationship. I’m mildly indifferent but good. You’re going through something. That’s a really cool effect. Everyone is getting the exact same scripting but responding differently.

Then you can start to tease out why.

For me, my partner and I have such a solid sex life that the only thing that could dampen it is me, either my libido dropping, or my workaholic tendencies getting to me, or us spending too much time together without time apart, or emotional conflicts.

For @Niles, of what I know of him (probably wrong but just an example) his sex life is probably crushing it because ASBR is doing well for him work wise, but, more importantly it’s giving him the energy to do well at work and then also come home energized and proud

For you, only you really know what’s happening, but your income has literally tripled, so I could hazard some guesses…

Are you working more? Are you creating fears in your partner that you’ll be too good for her one day and leave her once you “level up?” Are you a little more obsessive? Are you coming off as ambitious and business-like in your relationship instead of more loving and soft? Are you more obsessed with “fame” aka mild attention from many people instead of deep connection from one?

Are you just less interested in sex right now because your subconscious knows if you really figure out what ASBR has to teach you your sex life will 10x?

And if you want to explore the shadow… you’ll be repressing any and all of these that are present but it’s still something to think about, are you perhaps less sexually interested in your partner now because of some new found confidence? Are you imagining the type of partner you “could have gotten” if you were THIS smart and successful back when you were single? Did your partner want a beta male because she has fears about successful men leaving her? Are you healing any sort of self worth, porn addiction, fear of being seen, etc?

If any of those trigger you, just know, they’re all things I’ve thought of, so it’s just me trying to empathize.

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Agreed. So, give personal experiences, and let the big dogs with the knowledge of scripting decide if it’s broken or not after looking at how it affects tons of people. They’ve done a good job thus far.

Kind of reminds me of this recent post of @Azriel

What he said is one way to interpret his results.

Another is “khan and WB fuck up my sex life.”

Another is “wow I haven’t had any interest in the women I’ve usually been interested this is amazing, I’m leveling up and not looking back, yay!”

But I like how he did a great job of judging the experience and his reaction to it, not the sub, while still commenting on which effects of the sub were good/bad for him

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Everything that you’ve said has given me things to think about and I think you hit the nail on the head of several of the potential issues that might be causing these effects.

Also, I’ll say it again that I agree that the way I went about getting help on this matter was immature, blamey, and perhaps not super helpful.

What you said was helpful, very helpful, I saw several things that are probably causing the issue.

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Brother, I already said I agreed with you multiple times. Chill.

If they want to ban me, let it be done.

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Read this as giving him the energy to do well at work, and then also come home energized to Pound lol. :joy:

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Also, you can say everything you needed and wanted to say in half the words and it’s both more persuasive, and also more impactful.

If you use too many logical arguments to prove a single point, puts your reader to sleep and they stop listening. Or in some situations they agree with you just to get you to stop speaking.

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What type of work are you in? If your looking for a strong balance between healthy/engaging sex life and extreme ambition/resilience, Emperor is the only sub which really allowed me to establish this best of both worlds. I would go that route as well as Emperor has more of the general benefits I like, but not the best for my work situation.

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Judge the experience always, over time and accounting for other conditions.
Then in a clean environment, experiences over time can yield objective and subjective extrapolations that can be judgements on a sub. They will always be subjective but for people self aware and experienced on subs the may be able to start to comment meaningfully on the nature of the sub itself

Edit: Although in all fairness, I never had the above issues with Khan and WB previously. Although a different version of Khan, I think my response may have been SB related or in combination with Khan.

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Hey everyone! @Skadoosh is pointing out something important.

This forum is a place to post your experiences to get input and give data to improve the programs.

If something happened such as, you listened to Khan and then within a week your sex life took a turn for the worst, then post it. Be specific.

Such as “I listened to Khan and a week later my girlfriend started to avoid having sex with me. This has been going on now for three weeks. What might be happening? What might I do?”

In a situation like this, you could guess there is nothing in the Khan script telling your subconscious to put a damper on your sex life, but asking about what’s happening gives you a chance to get input.

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