LOTS vs EmpFit St 4 -Bodybuilding?

Questions and Comments
#1

I’m looking for some guidance on best path for Bodybuilding. I’m targeting a competition a little less than 12 months out. I have a female friend from my gym who just competed in the 2023 version of this local competition and I am inspired to try it myself, as a 50-plus, Male entrant and a novice entrant (never competed before). I have a looooooong way to go to be ready, not from a calendar standpoint, but from a body morphing standpoint.

So my question is whether LOTS or EF St 4 are best? Or cycle both? Or is there something even better than that for this subject?

And then should I cycle in Beast Within/Beast Unleashed? And if so, how?

I’m also open to any mundane guidance. Meaning what are good resources to start with in setting up a bodybuilding program? I’m certified to personal train but there was nothing in my certification related to body-building. More related to functional, every day fitness for older, or perhaps sedentary clientele.

Thank you in advance for your advice.

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#2

First off love the initiative to prove age is just a number! Wish you success.

Im in fitness as well and can share my observations with them:

Emperor fitness stage 3,4 - gave me the thickest, bulkiest look and seemed to help put on the most amount of muscle. I also felt noticeably stronger in the gym.

LotS - gave also a thick look but more of a leaner , athletic look since it has some fat burning too.

Wanted - lean model look, everything flowed really well. Not too bulky.

I’d say for your purposes you’re trying to put on as much mm as possible, so I’d give stage 3 ef a run during your bulk. And switch to stage 2 during your cut. You can also run stage 4 for a Swiss army approach

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#3

@Invictus

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#4

I may consider a QTKS custom within the next 3-6 months, once Saint/Fire open up the new process.

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#5

Anvil might be something of interest

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#6

I went with the QTKS custom a week or so ago, Waiting on its arrival.

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#7

What is your custom look like?

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#8

Module #1

Emperor Fitness ST4 Core × 1
Module #2

Legacy of the Spartan Core × 1
Module #3

Beast Unleashed Core × 1
Module #4

Paragon Complete Core × 1
Module #5

Serum X × 1
Module #6

Anvil of Hephaestus × 1
Module #7

Heracles × 1
Module #8

APS: Arms × 1
Module #9

APS: Hair × 1
Module #10

Apollon × 1
Module #11

APS: Legs × 1
Module #12

APS: Torso × 1
Module #13

A/SPS: Organs × 1
Module #14

Deep Sleep × 1
Module #15

Epigenetics & DNA Modulator × 1
Module #16

Extreme Exercise Motivation × 1
Module #17

Inexhaustible × 1
Module #18

Pragya × 1
Module #19

SPS: Fat Burn × 1
Module #20

SPS: Muscular System × 1

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#9

Quite heavy, good luck.

#10

I agree, it is heavy. Thank you for wishing me luck.

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#11

I am old school, just have two cores in my QTKS. LOS + Paragon.

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#12

You are wise. My hubris has me thinking due to my past experience that I can handle more. It will sound like an oxymoron, but I believe I know my energy system well, and can and do backoff when overloaded.

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#13

For example, I don’t generally listen to any of my customs as frequently as the recommendations allow for. Sometimes only 2-3x a week, rather than 2x every other day.

Trying to improve many areas at once.

#14

My only take is aesclepius might be a better option over paragon, as it’s lighter

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#15

Definitely considered that. But it’s ordered so we shall have to wait and see.

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#16

Personally I found it hard to stay on my diet on paragon. It also made me really tired. I’d say it’s better for overall healing over fitness related

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#17

Yea no harm in experimenting

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