Limitless, Quantum Limitless and Beyond Limitless

Questions and Comments
#1

Hello everyone, I am interested in running all three of Limitless, BL and QL in a stack. I see that in the forums people have combined two at the same time: BL and Limitless, QL and Limitless or QL and BL but I have not seen anyone use all 3 in a stack. My reasoning is that by running all 3 I get each level of cognitive development without having to wait for a ramp up period I would start off with BL for lets say a month (first cycle) to get the immediate effects, then add in Limitless (2nd cycle). In the third month (cycle) add in QL.

  1. Do you think a stack of all 3 would work or do you think it would be overkill

  2. How would you stack them if you do think it can work Do you think stage 1 of QL being that it is a foundation stage would conflict if combined with BL and limitless.

Thanks in advance for any responses

#2

This is a good plan.

You start slow and will be able to see the effects of each title when you add it each month.

Also, keeping the multistage for the end is good since QL takes time to give you the cognitive benefits you want. So starting with titles like BL and then Limitless keeps you productive even when you start Quantum Limitless and are going through the healing phases of QL1 & 2.

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#3

Hey Lion how are you? You really think this plan can work. I wasn’t sure because no one else has tried it. And you don’t think BL and Limitless will conflict with stage 1 and 2? Sweet.

By the way I am about ready to make that big first purchase that I mentioned in my post to you. At least I think it was you. At any rate I’ll be making a huge first purchase of 20 titles. This means that with the 30% discount I’ll get $700 worth of titles for less than $500.

Once I start journaling, hope you offer your usual insights.

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#4

What I can add is that I have run more than the recommended amount of ZP’s together before without serious issues, and it seems to be more about how much energy it takes your mind to harmonise the different subs together (so less differences between them means less problems). Gaining familiarity with them one at a time before doing them together seems like a solid plan. You can always back off or reduce the time of the loops for each separately if there is a problem. Another way of reducing recon is watching what you feel as you run the three of them together and cutting them shorter to microloops if you start getting a headache or an energy drain.

Don’t be afraid to switch up your stack or make temporary changes. As long as the primary notes remain the same, my experience has been that the mind can handle the gradual adjustments to the stack.

An example I’ve had recently was adding a couple of microloops of DRP . My original plan with that was just to give myself a bit of a kick in the ass on taking action, but with the help of my primary notes (RoS, LB, KB) and taking action (to stay connected to the higher powers and retain responsibility for my own life), it manifested a genuine miracle today for me. I won’t go into detail so as not to jinx it, but I have had two “miracles” or odd events today, and other unusual events in the past involving receiving money I wasn’t expecting.

I suspect the three of them would work well together, just make sure to adjust the length of the loops to match what you feel like you can handle, and rotating which ones you run together to make sure your mind doesn’t get too used to one heavy stack and start stonewalling can help too.

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#5

Chiming in on what @emperor_obewan said, to avoid recon, I always tell my subconscious what I intend to listen and what my primary goals are. Then I instruct it to give me a signal, when it’s enough.
And usually I listen to my subs without looking for the time. Then I suddenly get a ping in my head and I know it’s enough.

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#6

@Parsifal, really interesting about instructing your subconscious and you really do get a “ping”?. I will certainly try this.

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#7

“a ping in the head” is as good as any way to describe it.

I sometimes load up a series of ZP in order and then microloop them in different ratios But I have a sense of what muitiple of 10 seconds the dice is going to land on based on the sensation’s you’re getting while listening. If a sub is going to cause recon you can usually tell if you’ve listened long enough. but getting that kind of wisdom i guess means playing with the subs and learning your limits experientally.

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#8

It’s like something is poking my mind and I know it’s time to stop listening.
Once I ignored it and ten seconds later the ping happened again accompanied by the thought “Don’t be so foolish to listen longer”.
I rarely have recon and make good progress using this method.
Also, since I’m not bound to fixed times, I notice constant growth in listening times. But also sometimes I get the “ping” much earlier.
For example, running Lovebomb, I grew steadily to 8 minutes, but adding my custom, that started to vary greatly. Sometimes 8 minutes, the next time only 3, then 5 and suddenly just 1.5 minutes.
I’m very flexible that way. If I would use fixed times like adding 10 seconds each listening day, i would probably have had much more recon, because I can’t tell how my subconscious is working with the subs and if there’s enough capacity for longer exposure.
But if my subconscious mind is managing listening time instead of my conscious mind, it can make much better calculations on what is best.

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#9

@Parsifal, @emperor_obewan what exactly do you do when instructing your subconscious. Do you simply consciously tell it to let you know when you are listening too much? or is it a little bit more involved than that?

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#10

I think for me it’s more about listening to my body and sensing when its had enough. I dont tell my suibconscious how much pain it can take, it will tell me when i’ve had enough.

Edit to add… i generally associate my subconscious with being the non headbound part of me that hangs out in the body and can interject but isn’t part of the vocabulary of rational thought. You can “speak” to the parts that are not part of your usual conscious process.

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#11

So you are saying you don’t have a predetermined amount of time that you listen? You simply start listening, wait for your subconscious to tell you when it has had enough and the way your self conscious tells you its had enough is with a ping? And with this method you don’t get recon? As Mr Spock would say fascinating.

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#12

Basically that’s it.

It tell my subconscious something like this:

I’m gonna listen to Ascension and Abundance Architect (my custom). My main goals are to get the job, so get me all the qualities I need for the interview with next to ne recon. Also I want you to fix my procrastination. I want this job and I want to go all in once I’ve got it, so do your job. Just let me know, when it’s time to stop. Keep in mind, I’ll listen to both subs, Ascension and AA.

And at some point, I’ll get the ping, the poking in my mind and I know it’s enough.

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