So it’s best to go for the 15min?
In the link I posted it says “Oftentimes, decreasing exposure can lead to faster results, as the subconscious mind has less information to process and can instead focus on integration and execution (as expressed through your own unique mindset).”
the quote rather recommends the opposite.
You can listen to 15 minutes if you don’t get recon. 5 minutes might deliver faster results though.
Also, I don’t know, just a guess, faster results could mean the change is faster but not as profound. Like you can grasp the message of a book if you just read a summary. You can work with the information faster than if you would have to read the whole book. But if you read the whole book, your understanding will be much deeper.
How fast you process and execute a program is a good metric of the amount you should go with.
Less is faster execution for sure, but if you can execute 5 mins fast as well there is no reason why you can’t go up a few minutes, until you decrease execution time on the higher minutes as well.
Often when we go through some recon and stuff there is less visible progression and I think processing takes longer because you have to go through some internal changes.
I run 5 mins now of a title and after 1-2 hours the kind of denseness fades and I begin to clearly execute.
If this goes down to like 15 mins or so I may increase it to 7 mins.
On 15 mins often it takes like 6-8 hours or so before I begin to notice execution and it also lasts longer and is more intense.
So for me 3-5-7 mins is my sweet spot on average.
For most programs.
No. What people currently do is to start with 3 or 5 min. For a few weeks and then increase in 2min steps to the full 15 min.
There isn’t really a recommendation generally other than starting small.
I can run 15 min on must subs just fine.
Others to 30s micro loops just fine.
Figuring out how you gel best with them is a process.
I tried this. I found I couldn’t get enough exposure in one day to stretch through the week consistently. If I tried 15 minute loops it was too much initial input that screwed me up. Even 3 or 5 minutes is a little too much for me. In theory being able to run 15 minutes once and have it spread across the week seems like a good plan. But I think it depends what your capacity is. So far I’ve found lower exposure + consistency seems to be the way to go for me.
I have positive experiences doing shorter loops vs. the full 15 minutes.
My current stack is DR St.1 with Ascension and LBFH. I initially did 15 minute loops–and I quickly found old unpleasant similarities to prior DR runs. I was trying to process all that info again and again, and no significant changes emerged.
I then read on the DR sales page that one could use 5 minute loops, so I tried it. Let it be known that this is my 3rd time attempting DR, and I’ve had awarenesses pop up which I’ve never experienced before on St.1.
I’m not dealing with overload (which I hadn’t recognized before), and it is very active in my thinking now.
5 minutes achieves a LOT more than 15 minutes for me. I’ve been using that same time frame with anything I stack it with. No overload, and way more processing.
Alright, this sounds more comlicated than I anticipated. For me as a newbie, what do I need to look for to find out my sweet spot?
What gives you the best results without ruining your day (recon, shitty mood, being low energy etc)
Also, what fits into your daily routine. If you cant run a sub every other day, you can use more minutes, but less on-days a week.
It’s not that complicated tbh.
Also, trying to figure out what works best helps you to get a better feel for your subconscious and its effects.
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As a test on Saturday I did this, all at their max durations (15mins for mains and 7 min for AsCh)
Now the catch is it’s followed up with a 1 week washout that’s in progress. The good news is thanks to QTKS there’s no obvious recon like there would be in classic ZPv2 tech, because I had too much recon on WB ZPv2 for even 3-5 minutes to pull that off.