Bad ass! I like the way you use shadow and light. Subclub should hire you to do some cover art!
Is that you in the bottom pics? Do you have any bug/insect tattoos?
no I dont have any tattoos. I just picked pictures that look close to what I own
Ok cool, Congratulations on becoming a bad ass 
Its not about being scared or shamed, it’s about showing proof of commitment worthy traits.
In a world where its incredibly easy for women to have sex whenever they want, showing restraint, self control and conquering lust, being above it instead of being ruled by it shows great inner strenght, dignity and character, that commands respect and has an aura of grace, all of these are great commitment traits of high value.
It also shows she can be trusted and is worthy of trust in return, while the opposite creates doubt she will give in to lust again and continue previous pattern and betray you or your future family. So you cant really trust her for a commitment relationship so most guys will put her in short term fun just for sex category.
Theres science and statistics behind this, promiscuous past more likely to cheat and divorce, stealings his resources.
As men we are very biologically coded towards virgin, low body count women, also to ensure that the future offspring is ours, this evolutionary coding is strong.
I’m aware of this perspective.
You have also nominated or volunteered yourself to speak for all men, even if you have dozens of studies to back up what you are saying.
I am a man. I will speak for myself, as will all others here, whatever their sex or gender might be.
You know its a language term to say in short statistical general majority not every single person of a group… I see this online all the time, someone says x groups prefers this and then someones like im from x group and i dont agree… Its obvious there’s personal preferences but we speaking in statistics.
- Became bolder, which lead to me being assertive enough to assume leadership.
- Traveled the world and met other very strong individuals.
- Realizing that was one era and that I will restart Khan again one day with focus.
And when using statistics, although it may not be considered a logical fallacy, there is the issue of reflexively applying aggregate data to individual cases. By what process does one use to accurately know if certain aggregate data apply to a particular case, and how does one control for confirmation biases, rather than finding a means of dismissing something contradictory even if one thinks it’s factual to do so? All too often I see people not using the trivium, and ensconcing themselves in conclusions to reinforce a certain world view (possibly even placing themselves within a strange loop process) without looking at alternative interpretations of research conclusions.
Whether that applies here, or to anyone on this forum, I don’t know. It’s something I consider.
Im keeping it simple and straightforward, talking in general majority terms not individual exception preferences and i dont think any cultural conditioning will overcome thousands of years of evolutionary biological impulses.
From all my friends and their friends, any dating podcast pretty much on same page on this topic.
If u ask someone from a god forsaken villiage that never had internet im pretty sure even in that village they would have same views and prefer women that don’t sleep around because they are biologically encoded preferences.
Most cultures, religions in the world put emphasis on this.
Its not that convoluted its very logical.
Im not saying most men think x y z.
Whatever you prefer, thats fine with me man.
I was just saying that the world is diverse.
People are diverse. Men are women are.
and honestly I love that.
Life is good.
to the statistics part, food for thought
Lets say youd ask 100 men about some sexual female issue and they would give you answers on paper and then youd let them sit down with a cute charming girl that is unique in her own way (they all are) and after 20 minutes of talking you make the girl leave and ask them the same question but regarding that girl specifically. Chances are, if the girl has a charm to her or is interesting, the percentage of the statistic will change drastically because now its about her. Not to mention it would also differ if you would ask them the question with the girl in that room still. Because the individuals matter and people also say different things in different places and situations. And they CHANGE views if they like a person OR if they grew respect for that person with a different view. Not always, but it can happen and you can easily be that kind of person with that kind of powerful effect on the world. Take into consideration that we all also get to run these awesome OP subs. Its such a cheat code. Literally changes your aura and so many other things so fast. Its amazing! You matter and the statistics do not always apply to you the same. Subclub users can get quite impresively different kind of experience from life.
Again, Im not here to try to convince anyone on what they should like or not like. I dont care. Im just sharing my khan experiences and the fact that Im grateful to heal certain things and reap so many fun results and really get to live my life in such khanny way! So cool we get to choose these things. Its absolutely beyond me and I definitely see that the world around me has been treating me differently in just the ways I would have imagined for khan. Its not to that extreme level all the time - but I see the results growing. And yeah Im just grateful guys this forum is a blessing. @RVconsultant thank you for asking about my experiences. I did not plan to write anything but being challenged to sit down and look back, it filled my heart with encouragement and that extra appreciation.
She said she showed TOO much restraint, which is because guys paragraphs like the one you wrote. I don’t mean to come off as an asshole but your view is what I held my whole entire life and it just made girls HIDE their nature from me, no girl ever heard me talk about how easy it is for them to get sex and how I need them to show restraint and thought “I want this guy so bad”
It’s not easy for girls to have sex. Their naturally high standards and deep insecurity with being fucked and left behind while the guy uses their name as one of their “bodies” cancels out any red pill illusion that women have it easier.
I do respect you as a forum member so please forgive my bluntness
Also one last thing about the “as men we are coded towards virgin low body count” is also a bullshit red pill illusion most people swallow up… a lot of guys can’t help but feel intense feelings towards a girl after learning of their open sexuality (promiscuous or openness towards sex) men are NOT lining up in spades over tinder, clubs, and other places foaming at the mouth with their genetic coding saying “time to find a wife who’s loyal”
Now yes you can say “they tryna get laid” but it’s the same thing, most guys end up with these girls they get laid with! It’s also an illusion most people are meeting in religious tier settings and “courting” most men end up with a girl they find hot and have had sex with before getting serious
Most red pill illusions are bull shit, “alpha males are wired to spread their seed far and wide”
As if men in spades are ditching condoms during casual sex or tricking women so that they get them pregnant. I’ll agree men are wired to love sex (like women) cuz god needs to make sure we keep going but the whole fathering 30 kids is NEVER naturally brought about males until they run into red pill theory and begin to act as if they desire to spread their seed cuz some sweaty guy wrote it as one of “human nature’s rules”
Everything you say is a YOU perspective, I do not like low body count girls and neither do I find them viscerally attractive, the old me liked that they gave me power and that’s hardly saying anything about my coding and more about my limitations, I have ALWAYS felt deep and visceral feelings for girls with heavy sexual appetites
The main argument of any new age red pill theory is that guys like me are stupid and blind and don’t know the truth about women enough to do the right thing but THATS MOOOOST GUYS! Most guys aren’t red pilled, most guys are feminine leaning today and will commend girls for open sexualities, so people who lean towards red pill theory are the minority, and any talk of “genetic coding” is completely crushed and removed with new age inspirations, look at new age couples, THATS THE FUTURE, not what humans ought to do based on “natural coding” that SOUNDS logical
No worries about being blunt i like straight forward honest discussion, dont mind at all.
Was recently talking with my friends about this, one should never reveal your cards (your values) to women irl because then they will just give u illusion fantasy u want to hear.
The key is coming off unjudgemental and liberal as possible then they reveal their hidden nature and honest past when they think theres no judgement.
Its a social chess game in courting.
Theres a new wave of promiscuous past women that pivot to religius trad archetype and personality that will try to hide their past so theres more nuance and social savyness in dating.
For you it might not be a big deal but for some men will literally divorce if she lied about that.
My friends that are approaching mid 30s are getting biological impulse for kids and something serious while previously they didnt even want kids, even tho they had promiscuous past they dont want same women like that, even tho they are willing to compromise to a point those relationships still end up only as fun and they dont treat them seriously.
A mate was in a long term many years relationship but didnt want to commit futher to her when she wanted kids because of her past.
Being ok with dating and sleeping is one thing but a step further is completely different.
For fun relationships cheating is more common because u dont feel like u can trust her anyway and theres no real commitment so might as well sleep with other women.
The 30+ mates that are looking to settle down soon for something serious even tho they are much higher value than avg guys, will date down women just for the lower body count/virgin, they already had hot girls, dating down is not an issue for most men.
I talked to guys that dont even know what redpill is or even read or seen it but still think like this.
Its deeply biologically engrained imo, my mates are not in religious or trad societies, they are in very most extreme liberal ones and still think like that.
A lot of dudes from those countries even go travelling abroad to find a wife in more trad societies.
I dont think that you are right about the future.
Dating podcasts and personalities like Tates are getting more and more popular and these views are spreading to younger gen, more men are becoming socially and dating game aware.
Which is good so they dont get taken advantage off or settle for something they are not comfortable really.
Before they didnt have access to dating or women insights, only the holywood movies or cultural representation and hard earned irl lessons.
The guy that’s doing poorly in life in our hobby social circle is the least socially savvy and hes most willing to be ok with a womens past.
Thats the type i see most often promiscuous women settle down with after their dating value goes down. It looks like they are getting scammed but they are just desperate to be with somebody.
On khan i really zoom in and automatically focus on social status nuances.
I notice all the time whether in personal social circles or out there in the world that guys that commit to those women are often perceived as lower status and ‘suckers’ or ‘losers’ in dating game that get mocked by others. Her past affects his social status A LOT even if hes a successful guy he will still be seen as beta provider at most.
Even on X and different social media i recall some guy becoming a meme because he married a single white mom with a black kid, and thousands of people mocked him as a sucker, and not just his race other race people look him socially as a loser too. So he lost all social standing and respect, becoming an online meme of mocking, because who he choose to commit to.
Im not making these judgements, im just observing human social dynamics and playing the game.
Yeah for sure theres plenty of people that are comfortable with some compromise to a certain point based on individuals and subs def give you advantage over statistics.
I was just giving perspective that despite the liberal view narrative that virgin/trad/religious sort of archetype girls are weak, ashamed, meek, disempowered…etc i view them more in empowered and strong view, for me that’s display of inner strenght and strong values to resist the pull of the world, most people go down the easy route of short term pleasure, so definitely not weakness.
Okay everyone.
First, I do see a good intellectual debate here. No doubt about it. I’ve followed your-alls posts, and I know all of you are smart. However, please keep in mind redpill oriented topics are generally forbidden.
Second, the title of this thread is “Khan - What do you Evolve Into?” isn’t not “Perspectives on Evolving ideas in Evolutionary psychology”. I know evolve, evolution, evolutionary, evolving.
Third, I am familiar with works such as Dr. David Buss. I also about 6 months ago listened to an interview with a man who I think has a masters degree (and I think was working on a doctorate) who studies this, said that some of the ideas, hypotheses, conclusions, etc. that have been held in that field may not be as bullet-proof as once thought. (I wish I could remember who it was.)
Fourth, there is an article I can’t find but it gave a good summary in a table about how culture can influence dating, sexual selection, etc. As an example, one of the findings I think was that when porn was easily accessible, men tended to rate women that they knew as less attractive compared with societies where porn was not easy to access. This study was done in the 1990s, I think. If anyone knows where it might be, please post it in my thread/journal. (I think Dr. David Buss authored it.)
Okay back on track people.
Sorry I wasn’t aware red pill was forbidden on the forum RV. I did not intend to start any sort of convo like this here. Would love to get back on track with the Kahn talk : )
Thank you, Khan Spartan!
From Ironclaws, to now Iron? Or Spartan? Both? I always imagined a giga-chad buff and cool guy making those sick ass edits and posting them. Iron is so masculine that i only ever realized she was a girl when she said it herself and that’s when i learned anyone can be a based giga chad in their own way.
@IRON You should definitely watch the Riddick Movies if you haven’t, especially the 2nd and 3rd. I recently rewatched them for the first time in over 10 years only to realize he fully embodies the version of Khan i see myself as.
