Khan - What do you Evolve Into?

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#16

Can confirm, ran 9 and a half months khan st1 love and war.
I thought new khan with nse was v2 or was there a v2 khan before love and war khan?

Anyway definitely a long term commitment after 9 and half months i felt the strong pull to start st2 khan.

Each stage builds upon previous stage and to get more benefits you need strong structure from previous stages.

Its like building a massive castle, theres stages and infracture to build which supports and makes the whole structure stable and optimal.

I likely wont be returning to khan st1 as i get my inner work needs from DRR.

Khan is definitely not a tourist short term sub, definitely gotta put in few years to get full benefits.

The more you built up the psyche from previous stages the more benefits compound with st 4.

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#17

@IRON

Any comments?

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@Brandon

You ran Khan, yes? Want to comment?

#20

Over a year on khan

I went from a meak artsy girl that would look up to epic masculine characters to actually feeling like one these months. I have always seen myself as only but a “right hand” or just a somewhat useful side character in any great stories I’d ever imagine but khan really showed me that I can have my own great story and be just as badass as the characters I always looked up to in spirit, looks, actions, mind etc.

I always loved to save and watch edits, read quotes and look at really cool masculine characters. I was driven into it more. By now half of my YouTube is filled with epic cinematics.

I developed a strong sense of masculinity.
Body language, way of thinking… even my body frame is quite wide and powerful by now. I feel that I take up space with my shoulders as I walk. It feels good. Head up. I take up space when I sit or lay down. Relaxed.

Much stronger frame when having conversations, voice significantly lower and more expressive to a point where it confused people at times. When I’m on calls online, they sometimes can’t tell my gender apart. I turn on cam, girls get flirty with me or I’m asked if I’m lesbian. So you can see clearly that the masculine expression works exceedingly well as they really like it.

Adjusted into a mind of a leader rather than a follower like before. Now seemingly taking my shots wherever I can see them to take a hold of power and lead people with iron grit yet understanding and compassion. I held a presentation few weeks ago and one of the girls came up to me and said she felt the “ultimate leader” energy from me while I talked to the crowd.

Straight posture with shoulders back. Devilish smile. I call out people a LOT. If anyone says something that would offend me, I say it in the spot so they don’t just get away with it. It shocks them and they do their best to not do so again while also having grown more respect for me. I am very willing to walk away from people so if someone misbehaves, they don’t get to stick around.

I feel a deep sense of respect even from males. I feel that they do not view me as a “girl” but rather as a good ally. Someone capable. And I have quite a lot of brotherly, good moments with them. As I always wanted. To be seen as an equal and even more in some eyes not based on gender but on who we actually are. Which is far more.

certain healing aspect details

I healed some pretty hidden and strange stuff around sex for me. Being a female it can feel stigmatizing to even say the word yet half of the population are females and Id dare to say they think of sex just as often. I used to really fear being perceived as promiscuous by strangers. If someone would make such assumption It used to really hurt me. It took few months but Im past it now. I dont see it as a bad thing anymore and if any woman wants to have sex in spades, go on I wish you the best. If guys can do it, you can too fuck it. I really dont care anymore. Thank god I got to heal all that shame around it because now if someone makes a sexual joke, I dont get tense anymore. I can joke too. Its no big deal. I know who I am and I feel very good with that. I dont feel guilty around it I dont have fears around that topic or the way Im seen. Im free to live as I please and you know, sex is part of life. I feel indifferent to it. More calm about it. Not give a fuck attitude. And that, oddly, seems to be quite charming thing. And I know some guys out there would disagree and they want that meek - cute - innocent - scared of the word sex virgin cute girl they can enjoy for themselves but honestly, doing it with someone you love deeply and trust with your life while both of you are having a blast sounds much better to me. That really deep primal love.

I got rid of my social media months ago. No apps, no accounts. I used to be very active there. Now I’m much more to myself.

My arts have significantly changed. I don’t wish to have them posted here for long but I’ll show it for a day or two under this post so you can get a feel of some of it.

Anyways yes Khan is right after heartsong my most favorite sub. I don’t plan on letting it go. I am a different person. You could say the kind of person I would have wished to meet and look up to. Khan is a wild yet the most fun ride of my life. Very edgy, very epic. When the latest new version came out, I felt like I just witnessed a new god of war game come out. Pure joy.

Oh yes and resilience. It taught me a lot of it through life experiences over and over again. Many things that used to dont shake with me as much. Also learning how to enjoy putting people into their place. How to be okay with being seen as “asshole” or “bad” / “evil”. Holding people accountable. Making just comebacks and coming out as winner. Appreciating life at ruthless times and situations and learning to thrive in them instead of trying to get out of them asap. To not wish for an easy life but for strength to overcome anything with a smile - maybe even a giggle :japanese_ogre:. A lot of power dynamic stuff around people thats a bit too abstract to write shortly about. But yeah. Khanny.

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#21

That’s epic. I have to run Khan, too!

Thank you for your review. The whole piece is just inspiring!

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#22
art while on khan : )

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#23

Bad ass! I like the way you use shadow and light. Subclub should hire you to do some cover art!

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#24

Is that you in the bottom pics? Do you have any bug/insect tattoos?

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#25

no I dont have any tattoos. I just picked pictures that look close to what I own

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#26

Ok cool, Congratulations on becoming a bad ass :muscle:

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#27

Its not about being scared or shamed, it’s about showing proof of commitment worthy traits.

In a world where its incredibly easy for women to have sex whenever they want, showing restraint, self control and conquering lust, being above it instead of being ruled by it shows great inner strenght, dignity and character, that commands respect and has an aura of grace, all of these are great commitment traits of high value.

It also shows she can be trusted and is worthy of trust in return, while the opposite creates doubt she will give in to lust again and continue previous pattern and betray you or your future family. So you cant really trust her for a commitment relationship so most guys will put her in short term fun just for sex category.

Theres science and statistics behind this, promiscuous past more likely to cheat and divorce, stealings his resources.

As men we are very biologically coded towards virgin, low body count women, also to ensure that the future offspring is ours, this evolutionary coding is strong.

#28

I’m aware of this perspective.

You have also nominated or volunteered yourself to speak for all men, even if you have dozens of studies to back up what you are saying.

I am a man. I will speak for myself, as will all others here, whatever their sex or gender might be.

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#29

You know its a language term to say in short statistical general majority not every single person of a group… I see this online all the time, someone says x groups prefers this and then someones like im from x group and i dont agree… Its obvious there’s personal preferences but we speaking in statistics.

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#30
  1. Became bolder, which lead to me being assertive enough to assume leadership.
  2. Traveled the world and met other very strong individuals.
  3. Realizing that was one era and that I will restart Khan again one day with focus.
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#31

And when using statistics, although it may not be considered a logical fallacy, there is the issue of reflexively applying aggregate data to individual cases. By what process does one use to accurately know if certain aggregate data apply to a particular case, and how does one control for confirmation biases, rather than finding a means of dismissing something contradictory even if one thinks it’s factual to do so? All too often I see people not using the trivium, and ensconcing themselves in conclusions to reinforce a certain world view (possibly even placing themselves within a strange loop process) without looking at alternative interpretations of research conclusions.

Whether that applies here, or to anyone on this forum, I don’t know. It’s something I consider.

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#32

Im keeping it simple and straightforward, talking in general majority terms not individual exception preferences and i dont think any cultural conditioning will overcome thousands of years of evolutionary biological impulses.

From all my friends and their friends, any dating podcast pretty much on same page on this topic.
If u ask someone from a god forsaken villiage that never had internet im pretty sure even in that village they would have same views and prefer women that don’t sleep around because they are biologically encoded preferences.

Most cultures, religions in the world put emphasis on this.

Its not that convoluted its very logical.

#33

Im not saying most men think x y z.
Whatever you prefer, thats fine with me man.
I was just saying that the world is diverse.
People are diverse. Men are women are.
and honestly I love that.
Life is good.

to the statistics part, food for thought

Lets say youd ask 100 men about some sexual female issue and they would give you answers on paper and then youd let them sit down with a cute charming girl that is unique in her own way (they all are) and after 20 minutes of talking you make the girl leave and ask them the same question but regarding that girl specifically. Chances are, if the girl has a charm to her or is interesting, the percentage of the statistic will change drastically because now its about her. Not to mention it would also differ if you would ask them the question with the girl in that room still. Because the individuals matter and people also say different things in different places and situations. And they CHANGE views if they like a person OR if they grew respect for that person with a different view. Not always, but it can happen and you can easily be that kind of person with that kind of powerful effect on the world. Take into consideration that we all also get to run these awesome OP subs. Its such a cheat code. Literally changes your aura and so many other things so fast. Its amazing! You matter and the statistics do not always apply to you the same. Subclub users can get quite impresively different kind of experience from life.

Again, Im not here to try to convince anyone on what they should like or not like. I dont care. Im just sharing my khan experiences and the fact that Im grateful to heal certain things and reap so many fun results and really get to live my life in such khanny way! So cool we get to choose these things. Its absolutely beyond me and I definitely see that the world around me has been treating me differently in just the ways I would have imagined for khan. Its not to that extreme level all the time - but I see the results growing. And yeah Im just grateful guys this forum is a blessing. @RVconsultant thank you for asking about my experiences. I did not plan to write anything but being challenged to sit down and look back, it filled my heart with encouragement and that extra appreciation.

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#34

She said she showed TOO much restraint, which is because guys paragraphs like the one you wrote. I don’t mean to come off as an asshole but your view is what I held my whole entire life and it just made girls HIDE their nature from me, no girl ever heard me talk about how easy it is for them to get sex and how I need them to show restraint and thought “I want this guy so bad”

It’s not easy for girls to have sex. Their naturally high standards and deep insecurity with being fucked and left behind while the guy uses their name as one of their “bodies” cancels out any red pill illusion that women have it easier.

I do respect you as a forum member so please forgive my bluntness

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#35

Also one last thing about the “as men we are coded towards virgin low body count” is also a bullshit red pill illusion most people swallow up… a lot of guys can’t help but feel intense feelings towards a girl after learning of their open sexuality (promiscuous or openness towards sex) men are NOT lining up in spades over tinder, clubs, and other places foaming at the mouth with their genetic coding saying “time to find a wife who’s loyal”

Now yes you can say “they tryna get laid” but it’s the same thing, most guys end up with these girls they get laid with! It’s also an illusion most people are meeting in religious tier settings and “courting” most men end up with a girl they find hot and have had sex with before getting serious

Most red pill illusions are bull shit, “alpha males are wired to spread their seed far and wide”

As if men in spades are ditching condoms during casual sex or tricking women so that they get them pregnant. I’ll agree men are wired to love sex (like women) cuz god needs to make sure we keep going but the whole fathering 30 kids is NEVER naturally brought about males until they run into red pill theory and begin to act as if they desire to spread their seed cuz some sweaty guy wrote it as one of “human nature’s rules”

Everything you say is a YOU perspective, I do not like low body count girls and neither do I find them viscerally attractive, the old me liked that they gave me power and that’s hardly saying anything about my coding and more about my limitations, I have ALWAYS felt deep and visceral feelings for girls with heavy sexual appetites

The main argument of any new age red pill theory is that guys like me are stupid and blind and don’t know the truth about women enough to do the right thing but THATS MOOOOST GUYS! Most guys aren’t red pilled, most guys are feminine leaning today and will commend girls for open sexualities, so people who lean towards red pill theory are the minority, and any talk of “genetic coding” is completely crushed and removed with new age inspirations, look at new age couples, THATS THE FUTURE, not what humans ought to do based on “natural coding” that SOUNDS logical

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#36

No worries about being blunt i like straight forward honest discussion, dont mind at all.

Was recently talking with my friends about this, one should never reveal your cards (your values) to women irl because then they will just give u illusion fantasy u want to hear.
The key is coming off unjudgemental and liberal as possible then they reveal their hidden nature and honest past when they think theres no judgement.

Its a social chess game in courting.
Theres a new wave of promiscuous past women that pivot to religius trad archetype and personality that will try to hide their past so theres more nuance and social savyness in dating.

For you it might not be a big deal but for some men will literally divorce if she lied about that.

My friends that are approaching mid 30s are getting biological impulse for kids and something serious while previously they didnt even want kids, even tho they had promiscuous past they dont want same women like that, even tho they are willing to compromise to a point those relationships still end up only as fun and they dont treat them seriously.
A mate was in a long term many years relationship but didnt want to commit futher to her when she wanted kids because of her past.

Being ok with dating and sleeping is one thing but a step further is completely different.
For fun relationships cheating is more common because u dont feel like u can trust her anyway and theres no real commitment so might as well sleep with other women.

The 30+ mates that are looking to settle down soon for something serious even tho they are much higher value than avg guys, will date down women just for the lower body count/virgin, they already had hot girls, dating down is not an issue for most men.

I talked to guys that dont even know what redpill is or even read or seen it but still think like this.
Its deeply biologically engrained imo, my mates are not in religious or trad societies, they are in very most extreme liberal ones and still think like that.
A lot of dudes from those countries even go travelling abroad to find a wife in more trad societies.
I dont think that you are right about the future.
Dating podcasts and personalities like Tates are getting more and more popular and these views are spreading to younger gen, more men are becoming socially and dating game aware.
Which is good so they dont get taken advantage off or settle for something they are not comfortable really.
Before they didnt have access to dating or women insights, only the holywood movies or cultural representation and hard earned irl lessons.

The guy that’s doing poorly in life in our hobby social circle is the least socially savvy and hes most willing to be ok with a womens past.
Thats the type i see most often promiscuous women settle down with after their dating value goes down. It looks like they are getting scammed but they are just desperate to be with somebody.

On khan i really zoom in and automatically focus on social status nuances.
I notice all the time whether in personal social circles or out there in the world that guys that commit to those women are often perceived as lower status and ‘suckers’ or ‘losers’ in dating game that get mocked by others. Her past affects his social status A LOT even if hes a successful guy he will still be seen as beta provider at most.

Even on X and different social media i recall some guy becoming a meme because he married a single white mom with a black kid, and thousands of people mocked him as a sucker, and not just his race other race people look him socially as a loser too. So he lost all social standing and respect, becoming an online meme of mocking, because who he choose to commit to.

Im not making these judgements, im just observing human social dynamics and playing the game.

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