Khan and Dragon Reborn

I’ve seen the description of both Khan Love and War and Dragon Reborn Red and believe that using both ZPs together would create the ultimate mental enhancement/get sh*t together stack. Is anyone else running these 2 together?

Do something easier, combine both together would create to much of a dense stack if it’s your first time running either. Stick with one for a while then jump to the other.

i.e. start out with DDR run it until ST4 then jump to Khan ST2

Or do something like DDR with emperor on the side

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If you’re new to Subliminal Club stuff, DRR might be too intense—even if it’s the only sub you’re using. It’s better to start with a lighter single-stage sub first, observe how it feels, and see what effects it has.

Also, be patient—results can take time to appear.

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Would it be too intense? Wym by dense

The amount of scripting in each of the stages are to much for beginners to run it together. Dense is the amount of scripting in them.

So if you pair two stages together there’s will be to much information with in them for you to process.

Well I already started Stage 1s of both yesterday

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have fun. you’ll either suffer like hell or not feel it at al LOL.

I’m assuming you’re running the full 15 min loops for both?

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Yes. Why wouldn’t I feel it?

If you overexpose one result can be “stonewalling” aka blocking it out. It’s in the support articles or masterclass or smth

I’m only following the listening instructions. 1 loop of both zp files every other day, startsd yesterday. What’s wrong with it? Would khan be better alone?

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yeah it would be better alone you’re generally not supposed to run 2 multistagers at the same time.

for something like Khan better to just run it solo it has everything you need, go slow and take ur time with it, you should honestly consider starting out at 3 minute loops and running those until you feel the effects of the sub and know what the effect is. Then you can increase/decrease loop time until you find your ‘sweet spot’

If you can’t feel it, better to stay at the 3min mark.

“Less is more” especially with subs like DR/Khan - you really went for the 2 most difficult ones in the store LOL

So tomorrow’s session i should carry on Khan but not Dragon?

The most difficult ones is the point. I believe my mind can only be altered through ruthless means

i’ve seen a lot of people with that mindset and it doesn’t get good results.

you will NOT get more jacked at the gym by lifting way above your means.

Push hard, ABSOLUTELY. Handle recon.

But if you try and lift a 600lb barbell off the floor you will make no progress and get no strength gains.

Better to use the weight you can handle and push your self hard and consistently

People try and go “intense” to overcompensate for the fact that they’re inconsistent.

Pro bodybuilders focus on very small bursts of intensity, which everyone fetishizes, while they completely ignore the LONG AND INTENSE periods of recovery that go alongside that.

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So Khan > DR and Should be used by itself?

No real preference whether you use Khan or DR

Pick whichever one you prefer

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Dragon reborn is kind of more “healing” focused, while it certainly does also build masculinity and confidence.

Khan is more directly about massive levels of confidence, sexuality, success, wealth, dominance, resilience, etc.

Khan’s first stage is healing, but the others aren’t. Meanwhile all 4 stages of dragon reborn are healing.

They’re similar titles but Khan is much more sex/wealth focused and less healing focused.

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I listened to both DR Stage 1 and Khan Stage 1 for first time yesterday. So I should only loop Khan now from tomorrow (as per ZP instructions) or use both DR St.1 and Khan St1 until the 21 days are up?

probably only Khan

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Both together wouldn’t provide good results?