Jouissance - Becoming Billions - EOG

Journals - Major Programs
#81

I see conversation catalyst as more of a marketing funnel to sale, than sale specific module.

HOM+Conversatino Catalyst would be great for nurturing a larger audience as a chief revenue office, head of marketing sales, or owner of a company but I don’t know how Conversation Catalyst would support on call short sale cycle, especially if there is not complete alignment with the product being sold

I would posit that HOM/LE even with old tech stopped hitting deep because you got to a stable place, before you hit potentially more recon as they hit deeper.

That’s my experience subs stop hitting deep if I am consciously avoiding recon, but any ZP I imagine you could evolve with over a lifetime.

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#82

Day 1: Feb 9, PM
EOG1 - 3 mins
HOM - 9 mins

#83

Huge realization…

I need to be tracking how often and how I get into flow states

Not how much money I’m making, what sales I get, etc.

That is what Ecstasy Of Gold is about.

This is a realization of joy. it allows me to track states of bliss and engagement, especially as they relate to productivity.

It’s also a realization related to meditation, as flow states are one of the goals of meditation - so by doing something as simple as working on my goals in a flow state, I’m able to achieve a type of meditation.

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#84

9 mins HOM was too much.

I don’t feel “recon”

I just don’t feel any results or changes. I’m much more sensitive to the effects of subliminals at the 1-5 minute mark. At 9 minutes of HOM, my brain doesn’t interact with subs the same way, so I’m just like everyone else who says they don’t feel the subs working

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#85

Always nice to get inspired by you

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#86

Feb 12
EOG1 - 3m30s

Had my biggest day to date with this offer.

Interesting how powerful EOG1 is for results, passion, drive, manifestation.

It doesn’t even feel like a healing sub, often. It has healing but more importantly it has radical re-alignment. And when you’re aligned, it’s easy to take action and much more effective when you do.

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#87

It feels like all Khan scripting is gone from my subconscious.

I’m now too nervous to approach, lack social confidence with strangers, and feel like the flow of manifestation with women has stopped.

However, the flow of manifestation relating to wealth and life circumstances is strong with EOG. I traded one for the other.

Today, I realized I’m ready to reintroduce Khan, and rather than drop HOM, I’m going to listen to both, once per week, and always listen to EOG.

Schedule will be something like this.

Listening day 1: EOG/HOM
Listening Day 2; EOG/Khan
Listening Day 3: EOG/HOM
Listening day 4: EOG/Khan

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À la limite jouissance - KHAN
#88

Oh no :worried:

Why do you think that Khan’s changes and results have not become permanent for you?

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#89

Another 2 cents on my side…

You were having pretty good results on Khan ST1/ST2 until you started stack-switching again every few weeks.

Now matter how advanced you are but there’s still a limit in how many different inputs you can handle in certain time-frame (especially with this crazy powerful and dense technology).

Also the fact that you still cannot handle higher length microloops is a sign of a relatively low ceiling in subliminal inputs. In other words, if you get high recon symptoms or diminishing results on just few minutes more in microloops mode , the worst thing you can do is to start switch titles out of recon and overload yourself even more with a new set of inputs.

Decide to stick to a stack for several cycles and then make an assessment on what you want to improve or you think it still lacks in your stack choice.

I’m in high recon symptoms too but I won’t give up on Khan when the job is just started. Instead I will lower my exposure if the recon gets too high for my daily life.

So my suggestion for you is to use Khan & EOG for several cycles (I would say do 1 cycle for every stage so at least 4 cycles) and then reassess your situation and plans from there.

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#90

Thank you both for your responses, good questions and points.

I didn’t run ST1, just ST2. I did 2 cycles of ST1, but that was 6 months before ST2.

I was achieving the flow of manifestation with women through a full-seduction stack, not just Khan. It was Khan, WB, RoTNW. Now that I run a full wealth stack, EOG/HOM, my subconscious has different priorities.

In my dreams last night, I was the epitome of the Khan. I was at a hotel, I picked up two different girls, incredibly fun and confident, Khan to a T.

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#91

Because of my dream, I can see how Khan scripting is already reactivating now that I’m consciously processing status/seduction beliefs again, even though I haven’t run Khan yet.

I took action on seduction for the first time in a while yesterday and did a social walk/cold approach session. I’m surprised but not surprised that I immediately had dreams of me being Khan-like.

It’s also possible I’m being a little harsh when I say khan results are gone. In reality, I haven’t taken any action in Khan objectives for quite a while, and I was seducing in a easier environment than I am now (college vs street) and I was partying/socializing more.

I might just not have given Khan enough action/time. Let’s see how results without Khan unfold for 1-2 weeks, and then add it in to see the difference between action vs action+khan

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#92

I feel you on this though lol. HOM and EOG is killer for wealth, but defientley notice the lack of success in my romance life, gym, social, and just about every other area. Extremely one sided.

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#93

Ultimately, I’m clear on the fact that my wealth and passion goals are more important to me seduction.

Now, and forever more.

Seduction is a side dish, not a meal. It tastes good, but it doesn’t lead to fulfillment for me.

My #1 priority is to commit to EOG and run subs that support EOG’s goals. I feel fulfilled already.

Reintroducing Khan will be evaluated the same way every sub is: does this sub help me execute the full spectrum of EOG’s objectives.

I currently feel that passion in work/money, but I know thanks to @Viktor that the results will still take 6+ months to solidify.

So, I’m committed to EOG for the super long term.

I also don’t feel curious about the other stages right now, and so I’ll stay on ST1 for a long time…

I’m unintentionally “Becoming @Billions” all over again.

What’s missing?

  • I would feel even more passion in my life if I had a great group of co-ed friends around me to constantly socialize, party, and go out with.

  • finding the dream job to build my life around is still a ways away… it’s close but not there yet.

  • debt I need to pay off and taxes i need to catch up on.

  • BONUS: I’d love a physical shifting component in the sub but that’s a nice to have. I could find a way to incorporate emperor, emperor daddy, wanted, or wanted black if they fit into the stack naturally.

EDIT: I bring this up because everyone on this journal plus @praisetheurdtree in his journal brings up a good point - if you’re gonna do Khan, you gotta really commit - and I’m not ready to commit to khan because I’m so committed to EOG and that takes priority

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#94

Why do you think that is, considering there’s Emperor inside HOM? And HOM is supposed to be a “social” emperor so why especially do u have low social results? Maybe just because you’re a super fun/primal guy and HOM is a diff archetype?

#95

Potentially, but from what I remember it was something like 80% of Emperor is in HOM, I would venture to guess the other 20% has to do with the romance/masculine scripting.

Socially it’s just a different type of socializing. I probably do better with business/small talk/family types of social settings; but certainly don’t feel like the lift of the party. Could be just not resonating with certain parts of the script, but overall HOM is a lot less masculine/sexual of a sub.

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#96

What’s the best one subliminal compliment that touches all those areas for you in a way you enjoy?

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#97

Because he ran like 2 total loops of Khan :laughing:

I’m kidding, but it was just a couple of weeks and it sounds like when he aligns with those goals the khan within comes right back

#98

Saint or Fire said recently the entire script of Emperor is in HOM, if I remember correctly.

Really?

I think they’re both so crucial to actual fulfillment or expressions of fulfillment I should say.

Well, not seduction per se, but meaningful relationships. Or the ability to seduce is inherently fulfilling in my experience. Do you see meaningful romantic relationship as a meal or a side dish?

Up until two weeks ago it was a side dish, but now I find myself prioritizing partnership more

Interesting you originally said running EOG was to ultimately be able to fulfill Khan’s objectives

@Saiyan4Blue is EOG and Khan all the way- blood and gold. I think WB would be an easier addition.

Plus WB synergizes well with wealth subs it has people pursue to purchase in my experience.

What is this in reference too?

How is the sales work and other offer going?

#99

You’re right Forgot about that.

Subs will do that to you LOL.

Take all of these words as self-expression influenced by EOG/HOM I guess

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#100

But also @Azriel i think why EOG can supersede Khan is that EOG is about living a life of total joy and doing what you love.

So, they’re complementary. I can’t fully express Khan without having a life I’m extremely proud of and happy with, personally. So I need EOG to fully express Khan.

And yet I also need Khan (or a strong social sub) to fully express EOG - what’s the point of wild success if you’re not going to live it up and enjoy it. Put another way, one of the pillars of happiness (EOG objective) is a wildly fulfilling social/sexual life.

When I feel like I’ve truly stabilized in EOG’s objectives, this whole narrative will change, I’m sure.

I take back that wealth is more important to me than seduction “forever.” But it is right now. I’m sick of using dating to ignore the other subpar areas of my life.

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