Hey, I’d like to raise this concern in a separate thread from the main product thread since it’s been a while since there’s been input there. ZP tech has advanced substantially since the release of this product, but AsCh hasn’t been updated to keep up with those changes. Is it still a relevant product in one’s stack?
It’s still good. I ran it just yesterday or day before that.
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Isn’t AC a ZPv2 sub? It’s as updated as other subs like LE & AM, isn’t it?
We have the confirmation that AC will be updated too when the announcement that everything will be upgraded dropped.
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I don’t run it bc it gives me recon and the full 7 minutes overloads me. That’s just me tho
No opinion on anything else to do with it.
But Saint has already teased it’s being updated eventually as “Revelation of the Zero Point”
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Also yes it’s already been updated to ZPv2, which is when it was brought down to 7 min
It’s working magic
I still use it
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Can you elaborate on that, please?
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I run it with any stack.
I don’t think the tech stuff should bother you.
It’s pretty cool that it doesn’t even count as a major so I don’t have to feel like I “could be running something else instead”
No recon. I don’t feel anything. But I have faith in it. Who wouldn’t want some “manifestation booster” with literally nothing to lose by running it.
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Mee too 
First of all it cuts away what I don’t want, then guide me to what I realy want and then give me the feeling of : it’s absolutely attainable for me and my right to have it. Then I start to have joy
On the same time it made me realize how much I swim around in : lack
Then guide me out of it into a state of pleasure and joy that what I want or really want (most time it’s something different from what I want) is sooner or later reality
This make me very happy, relaxed, optimistic and I have a overall better experience of life
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So it basically works like ZPv2. Perhaps AC is the pure essence of ZP. It sounds like, to me at least.
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Ohh yes it works fantasticly strong.
Frend of mine needer to move as fast as possible to another location.
He had his head down because of rejections and then in one day out of nowhere he get the a call from a new apartment guy, same day he had the keys in his hands and a mountain next to his apartment, with such a strong energy coming from the mountain that it feels like your in the jungle from Latin America.
Unbelievable but believable when you run Ascension Chamber
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Does AC require conscious guidance when running it, such as focusing on your desires and goals while listening or setting an intention at the outset, or can it just be played like any other sub?
it can just be played.
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Since 1 1/2 months I am visiting apartments in Bern, every day 1-2 appartements.
Today I did a loop of ASC and 4 hours later I have a email from a Agency who want 2 specific papers who weren’t necessary in the normal application.
Yeeeeesssssssss
Let’s go
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Today I get a call from the agency and they asked when I want to move in
ASC rules
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I on the other hand, forgot about this product completely. Thanks for reminding @SubliminalUser . I will microloop it.
I searched for 2 months appartements in Bern.
There was one apartment I realy liked the most.
I filled out the papers and then walked straight into the agency. Said hallo to the women and start flirting with them.
Then I gave them my paperwork and wished them a good day.
Today ( nearly 3 weeks later) I get a call from this office and they give me the desired Appartement.
Basically I had 4 offers in 2 months and the number 1 on my list gave me the opportunity
ASC Rules
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Did you use any visualization/method or just listen to the loop?