Hey I wonder if more modules than Naturaliser have become insignificant with zpv2?
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also Mosaic? or any other result enhancer in general?
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These are definitely support ticket questions. Would you also please post your answers?
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The only module Iāve seen the Bois come anywhere close to alluding being obsolete nowadays (and I may be mistaking it for the title Aura) are certain āauricā modules.
TBH i think that Ascension and Ascended Mogul have become obsolete (with valid niche use-cases) major programs with the invention of ZP.
And this is coming from MEā¦ I am (was) literally MISTER ASCENDED MOGULā¦ great results with it in my early days of ZP and I was always pushing people to run Ascended Mogul if they had a variety of goals.
Now, I donāt think that anyone should touch the sub unless they have good reason to.
And it all has to do with how much Emperor has improved over time.
First of all, Emperor used to be considered a ātoughā subliminal to run with a ādarkā edge to it.
With the invention of ZP, itās effortless to run, smooth, and balanced.
Q and Qv2 emperor were all about hypergamy, hyperproductivity, and hypermotivated states.
Now, Iāve used Emperor to help me win more friends, feel more self love, work 12hrs a day, work 6hrs a day and relax the rest of the day, feel more sexually desireablee, strengthen my monogamous relationship to completely unheard of levels, exercise more, and be healthier in all areas of life.
Emperor used to be an āAdvancedā subliminal because it had a specific objectiveā¦ and that objective wasnāt for everyone. But now, with Emperor being for every male that wants more confidence and mastery over his life, itās not niched anymore.
And with ZP making recon much less prevalent than in Qv2, itās no longer a difficult sub that requires lots of recon to run efficiently. Itās a smooth, near-effortless experience for many.
There are a few times where Ascension or Ascended Mogul, in my opinion, are preferable to Emperor.
For example, if your primary goal with subliminals isnāt becoming an āAlpha Male,ā yet you want to add some āAlphaā into your stack, the ascension series could be a great add. For subs like LBFH, Renaissance Man, Chosen, True Sell, HOM, Revelation of Mind, Limitless, Heartsong, Ultimate Artist, and more, you might want to choose to add in the Ascension series products if you want the āAlpha Maleā scripting to take a backseat and let Chosen/Heartsong/Etc take the lead.
Another instance of where Ascension series products would be for someone that has tried Emperor and found itās too intense for them.
Another instance of Ascension series being effective would be if someone is looking for really fast results. Letās say that they have an event coming up and they need to be alpha in the next three weeks, Emperor will take longer to kick in than Ascension.
And I guess finally, Ascension would be better than Emperor if someone REALLY doesnāt want the benefits that Emperor has to offer. Ascension and Emperor have pretty similar benefits, but Emperor has the added benefits of increased sexual confidence (sex mastery X), greater increased intelligence (limitless), a slightly greater focus on dating/sex/love/self-esteem than the ascension series, and more powers of manifestation. Some people might not want thatā¦ but if youāre running Ascension, I donāt see how those things donāt help you hit Ascensionās goals.
In retrospect, Emperor has always been a favorite first subliminal for people, ever since 2019. With ZP, all of the downsides of Emperor as a first program has been minimized, while all of the upsides have been increased.
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