I wonder if Customs work differently than major titles (slower)

Mine hit me like a rocket in the first day

I have two customs which are technically zpu-preview (WDB, RICH, Summertime cores)

But they have I think 10 modules total in each

These were built before zpu was made the standard for customs

also, I only run my Summertime + SSX custom at 30s and it is rapid at integration in the short amount of time I’ve run it (2ish months)

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Thank you all for the feedback!

What is your listening schedule?

I started to try just once a week maybe it’s too little

Also I wanted to mention that Paragon is working very well I’m working on getting healthier and stronger in every way and also I’ve seen some of Stark for the wealth modules
But not necessarily feeling the archetype of Limitless or Stark or Wanted.

I wanted to mention that maybe the cores of Paragon and Limitless might work first before Wanted and PS as an example

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Both customs every other day, following the microloop schedule. (both 3 minutes today, 5 on Friday)

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I’m on a MWF split. Amounts to 10-week cycles with 3 listening days and 4 rests days a week.

Edit: MaKh and I run 3 titles every listening day. I’m sticking to micro loops for now. Will adjust my listening schedule once I get past 5 minutes.

I’ve always wondered about this. How do archetypes converge in the same custom? Stark and limitless feel like they’d blend nicely, but how about archetypes with competing interests?

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I do MWF with weekends off now (same as heartmadeiron :wink:)

The weekends just accelerate the integration for me

Maybe, if you’re doing full loops I think that will work

I’ve seen others do it once a week and it been pretty fine for them

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Everyone processes differently
I take forever lol
So knowing this- I craft customs carefully
And I play the long game

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This is why I’ve built custom and going with multi stages this time :grinning:

I use same non core modules in almost every custom I build and then try to make it all purpose so I can stack it with any store title and it’ll boost the effects

My customs never worked quickly for me
But who cares if some people find they work quicker…with enough time they DO work

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Yeah after our discussion here I think the ZPU custom aren’t like the name embedded customs.
They work seamlessly in a subtle way.
I feel changes but the changes are subtle and take more time to show or feel.
I will write about it in my journal.

You mean name embedded major title?
As ZPU customs are name embedded

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Yes of course.

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I’m guessing as I don’t know the mechanics

But it may be like a short story (major)
vs a weighty tome (custom)

It’s takes less time to read the short story

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Aren’t the name embed major titles also zpu build tho?

Yes but the major titles, to me - feel different.

Because it’s a focused title with focused scripting. Depending on both the nature of the custom and the listener, a custom can go faster and slower. The issue isn’t the build, it’s the subject matter and how the user handles it.

This. From the Instruction Manual: Subliminal Club - Instruction Manual

Creating a custom subliminal is an investment in your transformation. Unlike major titles, which are designed with broad applicability in mind, customs give you the power to laser-focus on your specific needs and circumstances. However, with that power comes responsibility—a poorly planned custom can be unfocused, overwhelming, or ineffective. Follow these guidelines to ensure your custom delivers maximum results.

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3. Focus Is Everything—The More Targeted, The Better

The most effective customs are highly focused on a specific area of life or a cohesive set of related goals. Unfocused customs that try to cover too many disparate areas produce diluted, slower results.

Examples of Highly Focused Customs:

Wealth & Business Focus:

  • Core: Mogul Core
  • Modules: Wealth Limit Destroyer, Cashflow Catalyst, Business Networking Mastery, Negotiation Mastery, Leadership Presence, Instant Business Tactician, Unrelenting Wealth Motivation and Energy, The Way of ROI, True Sell, Aura of Wealth
  • Purpose: Building a successful business with strong leadership and deal-making abilities
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Hi @SaintSovereign Would you consider a 3 core custom Emperor/wanted black/ rich trader targeting too many goeals?

It depends on the supporting modules. If this is an empire building stack through trading, but with romance elements, you’re good.

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Makes sense when you see the build. Half the modules are “physical change” or Paragon aligning and only 4 (3 synergies) are dedicated seduction modules. It’s oddly healing focused for 2 seduction cores.

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In the past it was recommended to minimize healing in customs and run some dense major titles on the side…

Yeah, after our discussion I started listening a bit more frequently, and I do think it’s working.

I also wanted to say something about the discussion itself.

Sometimes on the forum I feel that when someone comes in with curiosity about how something works, the conversation quickly shifts into criticism of their stack or choices.

In this case, I felt like my original question about the nature of ZPU Customs turned into “too many cores,” “Paragon with seduction cores,” etc.

I understand the feedback, but I’m comfortable with the way I designed my Customs and I’m not really looking to debate or defend those choices.

My original question was simply about how ZPU Customs tend to feel compared to major titles, and whether other people experience Customs as more subtle or slower to unfold.

And on that question, I actually got some very useful answers. Hearing that some people experience Customs as slower, more gradual, or something that needs more time helped me understand what I’m experiencing much better.

So I do genuinely appreciate everyone who helped me understand that side of it.

I just wanted to say this once because I’d personally prefer discussions like this to stay more focused on the question being asked rather than immediately turning into criticism of someone’s Custom or stack.

That’s all — not trying to argue or reopen the discussion. Just explaining how it felt from my side.

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