I think I found the social holy trinity of the subs

And that is Khan+WANTED+Stark

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Are you having some good experiences with this stack, @Alphamale?

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Even you @Alphamale ? You combine these subs ? Don’t they conflict each other?

I did not run WANTED yet, but I read the preface of “The Art of seduction” which led me to some realizations.
Another realization I had with True sell is that seduction and/or charisma is more important than Power which is direct in these days. Invictus will literally more GF’s AND more supporters and follower running Stark+WANTED than me running Khan+GLM+The commander which is purely masculine and blah blah blah.
I guess something healed inside me which may be the need to dominate directly.
True sell gave me insane results, from sleeping in the parks to someone giving me a place to stay. I am starting a business, and I am gonna run stark instead of true sell. The Khan is for the whole ambition to power, don’t be fooled, even Khan have seduction scripts in it. Just the power of the user is high, but imagine adding Stark’s diplomacy and WANTED’s coquetry to it.
Let’s not forget other aspects of stark.
MAYBE WANTED damages your reputation a bit, but that is worth it since it’s the most effective of the seducers. Once the target under the spell, boom!
I run Khan since I wanna have a masculine presence in order to keep that fear in the enemies, since coquetry can create intense anger and the country I am in can have some physical altercations.
Paging @friday (anyone can answer this since I wanna be sure) can I count on Khan regarding the issue above or the WANTED would dilute it?

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Wanted will indirectly dilute the effects of Khan, you gain Dominance on Khan and on the same point you want to attract women by your physicality and coquettery :rofl:.

WANTED HAS dominance on women. I am mainly using Khan for sth like boundaries, as @SaintSovereign said, you’ll feel that sharp spike of fear when thinking about messing with a Khan.

For me Khan is the power, dominance archetype
While Wanted is the mysterious and Angelic archtype.

Friday said WANTED and Khan pair exceptionally well.

Lol it’s not about what people said, besides People has been creating a custom combining Khan St4 with Wanted Core. But looking at the sales pages of the two you gonna understand that they conflict.

You can’t decide to be a Leader and on same time you want to be a dancer in night clubs.

Do you remember the story about The Godfather and his godson Johnny ?.

The Godfather is typical example of a Khan.

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Shoutout to @Yazooneh for answering if stark and WANTED dilutes that boundaries Khan gives you. As saint saint said, that sharp spike of fear.

They also stated ALL titles are synergistic.

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The combination you listed here seems more better.

Khan +True social or True sell
Emperor+True social or True sell
Wanted+ Stark

That’s a bold statement. Because with ZP any journey is individual. People have successfully stacked „differing“ cores.

You take what works best for you. There is no such things as „clashing“ subs. However imo this is for advanced users because you need to guide the subs consciously.

@Skadoosh has a lot to say about that. Or search his posts he explained it at length.

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I have a custom with both as cores and for me they don’t clash.

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:heart_eyes::heart_eyes::heart_eyes::heart_eyes::heart_eyes:
The one!
The one who can answer my question except @friday :smirk:(True sell talking, it’s simply amazing :joy:)
Do you encounter people being aggressive? I don’t know how to articulate it, but do you feel vulnerable?

Lol that’s great. I might try it the future.
But that should be when I have finished a full run on Khan for 8months.

Lol yeah

Yeah but see, the 2 archetypes can combine.
You don’t think you can be powerful, dominant, mysterious and angelic?’’

You won’t necessarily dilute the effects of Khan if you run Wanted.
I get what you’re saying. If you have the all powerful, direct, dominant and relentless prose of Khan, then when you run Wanted, it makes you more nonchalant which seemingly takes away from your pure expression of Khan.

So logic concludes: clearly there is some interplay between the subs where Khan is being diluted.

Here is what you didn’t taken into account:

You guys frame it as being “diluted” which essentially means that the effects are weakened. You’re assuming that the manifestation of traits, effects and expression (all of which are subjective and theoretically have infinite depth to them) operate in a form of solid linearity, which is an illusion. You’re also limiting the manifestation of dominance/khan to your knowledge base and what you consciously perceive for it to be.

Here’s something to think about lol…
You know, I can argue that stacking Khan + Wanted actually strengthens the dominance of Khan.

What are you measuring “dilution” based on. Because you were more reserved in a social situation? I can be in situations where I don’t utter a single word and be what you’d perceive as super dominant. Is that non-chalance or dominance? How exactly, are you measuring the perceived decrease in dominance or any Khan effect for that matter, when Wanted is added into the stack?

Internal feelings don’t really mean much… what matters more is how is that tangibly manifesting in real life, into real results. Such as social interaction, workplace, social events, dating, relationships, business meetings, etc.

If you’re sitting at home trying to figure out which subliminals are giving you that ideal internal feeling and acute expression of behavior, then you’re going to be stuck for a long time.

That’s like trying to min-max something that in the long run is extremely trivial.

Also, if you want to run Khan by itself and have that pure expression of what you can predict and are accustomed to. Understand that no human is essentially a pure expression and it’s not something to strive for as it would make you one-dimensional and predictable - uninteresting.

If you’re able to have an idea of how you’re going to be once manifested the subliminal, then that’s not truly realistic despite making sense in your own mind. You want to be multifaceted and perhaps so multifaceted that your own conception of yourself challenges you.

At the end of the day, you have to actually run Khan + Wanted and come to your own conclusion… and you have to run it for a while because a short period of time is nowhere near enough to understand the depth of these subliminals.

(all my personal opinion)

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How long were you running True Sell?

Hmm you’re on to something. Might listen to you and @Invictus recommendation.

For what it’s worth

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