I purchased starkq but didn’t realise I wouldn’t be able to hear the words at all. Is their anyway to be able to hear the words actually being said so I know what they are saying?
Also I have a lot of respect for subliminal club as when I asked for a refund they gave it.
If I find out you can actually hear a script being said so I gain trust that they actually are saying things I may repurchase the product.
There is no way to hear the words being said.
If you can hear the words, it’s no longer a subliminal.
“If you can hear the words, it’s no longer a subliminal.” I understand that but would like a tape where I can hear the words so I know what’s being said (or if they are saying things at all) how can I prove words are being said in the subliminals.
You just have to trust it and try it
The closest thing to a definitive test to prove that contents are being said is to play the Ultrasonic track.
With the Ultrasonic track you will hear absolutely nothing. Yet, when you play it to any frequency analyzer, you will have clear evidence that there is ongoing content. It is just slightly above the range of normal human hearing.
As for the actual content of the scripts, if Sub Club were to make those known to the public, then it is true that your dissatisfaction would disappear….
…But the reason that your dissatisfaction would disappear would be that this company would disappear, so there would be no products for you to be dissatisfied with.
Innovation-based business and Proprietary information and formulas go hand in hand.
The appropriate test of the products is in the results and the reactions that you experience after playing the products.
Closely observing your results and responses is the appropriate way to use the trial period. That is in fact the main purpose of the trial period.
If what you observe is compelling, continue to use the product. If not, you may return it.
sub = beneath
liminal = the border between states. In this case, between conscious and subconscious. No subliminals are audible to your conscious mind… it’s your subconscious that hears them, and that’s 100% the point.
Its much more effective when you don’t hear them, this way your conscious mind doesn’t nit pick what aligns to its supposed narrative.
Words are being said, anyway, there are many cases here on the forum where people are directly quoting something from the script without their awareness, which is a good sign of processing
I just wanna chime in before this thread likely gets locked, and say that I agree with Malkuth on the part of knowing the script based off of self observation. Saint has said more than one time that multiple people in several cases here on the forum have quoted the script before, the first instance I read about being Dark himself. I myself have recently been catching key words popping into my head in recent days of mindlessness, such as “transcending all outer limitations”, and more. Can I say they’re in the script? No, but I believe so.
If you take some time to read the tester discussion thread of their latest ambition, Zero Point, and read say, oh I don’t know, maybe just the first hundred posts or so, you may find a stirring within yourself. If you read any of the journals of the any of the active posters here, you may find them a bit convincing in their authenticity and for some, rawness.
Here’s the thing. We all come here of our own accord in our free time with no obligation to do so because the majority of us really believe in this tool for self exploration and discovery. So, as someone who’s been here a year and read…a lot… It’s kinda amusing and perplexing at the same time when someone asks a question like this.
The vast majority of the success of SC is kind of entwined with the little fact that nobody can do this like them at the moment. Their dedication is truly admirable and I aspire to dedicate myself in a similar way in my own way. It follows then, that things like how they build their titles and what they put into those titles would be held pretty tightly.
I assume you’re not new to subliminals entirely, but as a couple of people already stated, ‘sub’ in ‘subliminal’ is inherently indicative of below… Ya know, hearing.
I also assume that you read the sales page of at least one title and noticed that pretty little bold banner saying something to the effect of PATENT PENDING.
I doubt I needed to say all of that, but I am sure I need to say nothing else.
Best of luck here!
I think it’s an understandable request. Just not a workable one.
Sort of like asking your bank to share all of their security protocols, schematics, and passwords, so that you can confirm that they’re actually secure enough.
What @Jack is running into is the same point that @StateOfBeing made up above: at the end of the day, like Banking, Subliminals are a Trust-Based industry.
That means that, in making the decision to do business with this or other subliminal companies, customers need to be okay relying on factors such as Logic, Personal Observation, and Company Reputation to guide their judgment.
If those factors aren’t enough for you then you can’t (and perhaps shouldn’t) cross the threshold into working with the products.
The astute observer of the product website, however, will notice that there is one free subliminal available. Downloading and working with that one, might be another way to increase your confidence before you make an actual purchase.
You have a very interesting and valid point @Sage_Ninjistic
Have you ever noticed that mostly everyone who reports journals here, tend to improve in their vocabulary and form of expression in their journals.
I’m certain that I recall myself using words I’ve never used in my everyday speech prior to SubClub. I believe their scripts are so powerful, that their advanced grammatical expression transcends within us.
While we’ll never ever see these remarkable scripts, I might confidently add that actually listening to the products and producing profound results through action is the best way to get an idea of how effective the scripts are.
I thought it would be cool awhile back ago if at some point the Bois decide to unveil the scripts of older versions, such as pre-Q, once that sort of build is completely and totally obsolete (as it is pretty much is now, if I understand some posts correctly), but I realize that’s probably unrealistic for the simple fact that dropping chum in the water like that is bound to bring the sharks and scavengers around to bite off of what is there.
The reason I thought it would be cool is that I’d like to see the reactions of OG members that have been here from the beginning when they are able to say, “Hey…that makes sense now” or “so that’s why this/that happened for me.”
Fan boy stuff, really.
@Malkuth a legitimate assessment to be sure 
After Saint responded to me about the potential Porn Cessation free title he was considering releasing, I was going to create a thread for people to give SC ideas for free titles. But it didn’t sit right with me so. No thread. 
(I think the context of it was that he said it would be in ZP, but I’d have to check the thread again)
It’s not like making a subliminal is rocket science. Pretty much anybody can learn to make a sub, with words spoken.
But the key is to make one that is effective and actually produces results. Unfortunately, many don’t produce results.
So how do you know words are actually being spoken? The answer is because Subs are easy to make! They are a dime a dozen. That’s how you know that words are being spoken. If subs were difficult to make, I would be more agreeable to this question.
With a bit of Googling, anyone can learn how to turn a recording of affirmations or questions into a subliminal. The real tricks are crafting scripting that is highly effective at effecting change, and a build/delivery method that works fast and leaves permanent results.
Those 2 tricks are what make SC products so damn good, so of course, they will guard those secrets very closely.
I do understand his question and dilemma, but as others have said, I’m not releasing our scripts to anyone. The thing is, you’d have no way of verifying what we said was actually in the title anyway. It’s one of the inherent flaws of this industry and partly why it’ll never get TOO big. But I’m fine with that.
I suppose it’s a bit like Coca Cola. It’s easy enough to find out the ingredients. But figuring out the proportions, order to mix them in, things like temperature and duration, essentially all the things needed to result in the quite expensive drink we know and love to hate… that is still a secret. At least as far as I know.
Similarly, we could give you every word that’s in a subliminal, dictionary style from A to Z. It’s the order we put the words in, the speed, intonation, volume and so on that make the magic happen. And that we can not give away because then everybody could reproduce it.
As much as I’m sure some part of Saint wishes he could share the research with the world, the end result would be that SubClub no longer has enough of a revenue stream to support researching new recipes. And then the discoveries stop coming. Not to mention in some cases it would be handing the equivalent of an armed cluster bomb to a child and expect him or her to handle it responsibly.
Reading Malkuth calling it a trust-based industry made me smile, as the first thought that popped into my head was “yes, the consumers have to trust the subliminal producers, but ironically none of the producers trust that the others have enough integrity to not steal their work.”