How Can I Use Multiple Ultimas Before A Night Out?

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#1

the results i have been getting using either libertine or seduction ultima before going clubbing have been worth 100X the money i paid for these products.

My routine is i use either of them for 2 loops around 2 hours before i arrive at the club.

One thing i have always struggled with is how to stack ultimas before going clubbing.

I have never considered using both libertine and seduction ultima before going out since i do not see the point but have wanted to add diamond as i have had problems in the past maintaining erections during sex.

The problem is im not sure how to do it.

The instructions for diamond are to use it 1-2 hours before sex.

the way the nightlife works in my area i have to be inside before 10:30 pm to avoid long lines and then usually girls are not willing to leave until at least 12:30 AM so there is really no way for me to listen to diamond 1-2 hours before sex when clubbing.

Im inside the club by 10:30 PM and the earliest i might be having sex is 1 AM and realistically probably 2 AM so 1-2 hours before is impossible.

I also want to test sanguine and true social in the night life to be more relaxed.

I do not drink alcohol to loosen up like 99% of people in the nightlife so i find it hard to relax and be social and outgoing in such an environment while 100% sober, i could just drink alcohol like everyone else but im really trying to avoid that and i suspect sanguine or true social could help but im having a hard time deciding how to add them to libertine or seduction ultima.

could i listen to sanguine or true social for 2 loops 4-6 hours before i arrive at the club and then 2 hours before i do my usual 2 loops of libertine or seduction ultima? do you guys think this would give me the relaxation benefits from true social or sanguine without weakening the amazing sexual attraction i get from libertine or seduction ultima?

the reason i have not tried this is i get such strong sexual attraction from libertine and seduction ultima that im kind of paranoid about ruining that by adding something. thats the main reason but another reason is i wonder if listening to sanguine or true social 4-6 hours before i go out is too much time and by the time i arrive in the club the effect will already be gone or weakened significantly.

so to summarize:

  • i get amazing sexual attraction using 2 loops of either libertine or seduction ultima 2 hours before i arrive at the club.

  • I do NOT want to drink alcohol so i would like to test true social and sanguine as a way for me to be more relaxed in the clubs. But i do NOT want to get the relaxation at the cost of losing any sexual attraction from libertine and seduction ultima.

  • And lastly the ideal scenario is i find a way to also add diamond as well to my nightlife stack as in the past i have had problems getting/keeping erections with girls i took home from the nightlife. The erections issues are not from any deep psychological issues or anything like that; i think its more from too much masturbation and i have already taken a big step by not masturbating for the past 4-6 weeks in a row.

  • I’m also using sex mastery main program this week which should help with erections if i have sex this weekend. so maybe i do not even need diamond and 4-6 weeks of no masturbation + the past week on sex mastery should be enough to guarantee strong erections if i have sex this weekend.

#2

Ultima effects last the whole day so no worries about it wearing off. Some even report effects for 2 days.

What I recommend to use is:

  1. Primal Seduction Iron Throne Ultima (it has both Libertine and Seduction in it)

  2. True Social Ultima (both for being confident and social)

3 DIAMOND Ultima (for obvious reasons)

Play all three such that it finishes playing before 10:30 pm. Then go to the club and see what happens.

The reason why I recommended 3 titles is so that it won’t overload your mind.

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#4

thank you for the suggestion.

do you have any thoughts on my concern that adding for example true social might weaken the sexual attraction i get from seduction ultima?

a strong part of what seduction ultima seems to do is create a sort tension with the most attractive women; and to me relaxation is the opposite of tension so maybe getting relaxed might kill the benefits im getting from seduction ultima.

another thing i have considered is to maybe attack the issue from another angle with a sort of stoic vibe so maybe something like commander or god like ultima instead of true social or sanguine; the reasoning then would be to maintain the sexual tension from seduction ultima and then use commander or god like ultima to be more confident without alcohol.

i know the only way to find out is im just going to have to test and see but i just wanted to give you more insight into my thought process.

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#5

True Social + Seduction will improve BOTH your social skills and seduction skills. There is no reason to weaken either because you are running both. It might take more mind processing power though which is why I am asking you to limit the number of Ultimas you run per day to 3 (which is already too much but manageable)

You have mentioned a couple of ultimas here and there are some cool ideas. What I recommend is to choose 3 ultimas that are closest to the way you want to be and run those.

I unfortunately can’t help with deciding whether you choose Godlike Masculinity or The Commander or Sanguine. You have already read their sales pages so you will have to decide.

The problem most people have when trying out subs (and I will admit I had this issue in the beginning) is trying out too many titles (or Ultimas in your case) within a small time frame.

For example, I run Ultima1 + Ultima2 + Ultima3 today and then the next day it is Ultima1 + Ultima4 + Ultima5 after which the next day it is Ultima2 + Ultima5 + Ultima6. This sort of pattern leads to overloading the mind and lead to reconciliation and/or stonewalling and/or titles not working because the mind is still processing previous titles and then we introduce new titles.

So I advice you from my 2 years experience being here, choose your favorite 3 and try them for a month. And then if you want to change, stop the titles for a couple of days and choose another 3 for the next month. That will help you more.

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