Honest Feedback on Qv2

[Leandros]

That’s a fantastic idea @RVconsultant

I just do it when the technology is ready, because I don’t know what they need of me.

I wish you well and good healt

[Ice]

@RVconsultant

Look at all the upheaval over the past 60 days.

I completely agree with how obvious it’s been on the forums recently.

I will say on a personal level it feels more sneaky and less obvious than before. Like the recon of Q and Qv2 are completely different ‘flavors’. All the signs of recon that were apparent with Q are much more subtle and seemingly distinct in Qv2.

For example, with Q subs I would feel irritated, agitated, anxious, and just generally emotionally off when experiencing reconciliation. Now, with Qv2, I hardly get any of those emotional symptoms, more-so just a sense of physical exhaustion, which at first led me to believe that I was ok to run more loops since I didn’t experience any of the aforementioned warning signs I was accustomed to experiencing in Qv1. I’ve slowly learned to recognize the more subtle nature of Qv2 subs, and now following the recommendations reconciliation seems to be kept at bay.

Saint and Fire have done an outstanding job minimizing reconciliation with Qv2. In my experience I find myself much more functional and feeling “normal” even during times of reconciliation. However, this may be leading people to overexposure since it is more challenging to recognize it in yourself.

[Ice]

@RVconsultant

thank you

Thank you for your dedication to keeping the discourse civil and productive around here. It’s truly a wonderful community we have and we couldn’t do it without your guidance and support.

[Sub.Zero]

@Fire

Keep it focused, take action, follow the recommendations.

That’s what I’ve been doing for two months and I cannot even describe how much I’ve changed and grown. It’s just mind blowing. Especially, LD and Ecstasy of Freedom I’ve been listening to for around one month only.

[Sub.Zero]

@Fire

an enjoyable, step by step journey of self transformation and action taking is the most optimal choice, and there is no need for you to bully your subconscious mind into submission. It is your greatest, most powerful ally and tool - be kind to it and let it work properly for you.

The very core of the matter. Thank you for reminding us about that.

[AlexanderGraves]

@SaintSovereign

People see running subs as a challenge. They feel weak when they have to cut back on the loops, so they come up with the idea that the build itself is flawed.

Now I only came to SC months ago, so I only scratched Q before I got into Qv2 and started right with Khan and switching a ton of subs. So I have my share of “not listening to Saints recommendations.”

But what has struck me weird from being here and on QV2 is this idea to be constantly “on” the subs.

People try REALLY hard to get as many loops into one week as possible.

But… why?

IIRC @Fire once said that just ONE loop changes you forever. The changes are permanent. And y’all already DO get results after one loop, even if it might not immediately be the supermodel in your bed, but there are results. So why are we still trying to listen to as much as possible?

What is the gain?

Faster results? Well, look at the forum. NOBODY got faster results by adding tons of loops.

Maybe you can shine a light on this again, that we don’t constantly need to be “on” subs. They still work regardless, right? Or is there like a minimum exposure of 30 days-ish to fully integrate the script? I doubt it, but you get my point.

I, for one, would love a technology that puts a “backlog” in my mind that gets integrated over a week and is permanent. Think of the Matrix scene where Kung Fu gets loaded into Neo’s brain. That’s subliminals for you! And as you can see, he feels pain while it loads. RECONCILIATION

Also,

@SaintSovereign

This is less about the build and more about the title. For some reason, people are having a hard time accepting that they have faults in regards to certain things. For example, I can run a sexual sub and experience little to no reconciliation. Same thing with business / empire building subs – light reconciliation that may last a day that hurts productivity a bit, but nothing more.

This IMO needs way more exposure. It depends A WHOLE LOT on the title / modules you run. Not just dense programs like Khan vs lighter ones like ME. Also the direction it goes and stuff it has to work through.

For example AM still gives me recon every time. Not heavily, but it does. I suppose it’s due to Rebirth and all the overcoming of fear and doubt in it. If I had run DR already, it might be easier.

So it’s not just the title itself, it’s what it does and on which foundation it operates.

This is why I think general listening recommendations are difficult. Also why I took my own lessons from the recent update with “sprinkling boosters in there if needed” because I can’t add Ultimas in between. My ego isn’t hurt here. I just focus on Q and I am good.

QV2 is demanding, but not just your subconscious, also your conscious. The listener.
You need to cut back your ego, observe yourself, and be honest with your intentions.
ALSO, you need to schedule your runs. I only listen to a loop when I know I don’t need to do coaching or record a video that day, because my verbal fluency drops when I am in recon. We all need to be more aware of what we’re doing.

However, this thread got @SaintSovereign to drop a nugget about a new development of voice embedding, so I like this thread already

[Sub.Zero]

@AlexanderGraves

This is why I think general listening recommendations are difficult.

Not if you see the logic behind it and you experiment accordingly. But yes, it may be difficult for newbies to calibrate their stacks (and even to experienced users like the opener of the thread, as we can see). Calibrating one title is easy but if you’re running a stack and you have a little idea on SC titles and how they work for you you can easily end up getting recon and forgoing those excellent life changing tools. The general recommendations are for newbies or people who don’t see the logic behind those recommendations and don’t know how to experiment so… pretty much for everybody. Even as an experienced user as Hermit got fooled if it comes to his aptitude of using the tech so, guys, let’s stick to the recommendations and be careful while experimenting. As Fire and Saint have mentioned countless times, these are not toys and that’s how Hermit treats them and ended up getting a terrible recon, as we all could see, so may his example serves as a forewarning to us.

[friday]

@SaintSovereign

if I’m recalling correctly, the line spoken in different languages was something about how talented his tongue was because he could speak in different languages… if you catch my drift.

Instructions unclear. Tongue stuck in toaster.

@Fire if you are not shy and would like to share, what’s the exact phrase? I would LOVE to know and maybe use it myself sometimes . It is hilarious.

[Budewr]

@SaintSovereign

You want to… talk dirty to yourself?

HAHAHHAHAhahhahaha

[Budewr]

i honestly gonna throw my 50 cents here

i barley face in recon, its very mild! so i love Qv2!!

matter of fact i uploaded a support ticket just cause i thought im stonwalling cause i dont face any recon whatsoever

however when i do a washout boom i hit a door with that harsh recon, this tells how good Qv2 is

for me i dont feel any recon, barley anything tbh, its either overload or nothing, or small minor details very small not very noticable details of recon which is very smooth

so im happy with the tech,subs,titles everything

im grateful my friends

[Ice]

@AlexanderGraves

Think of the Matrix scene where Kung Fu gets loaded into Neo’s brain. That’s subliminals for you! And as you can see, he feels pain while it loads. RECONCILIATION

Love this Matrix analogy. That’s a great way of thinking of reconciliation and how it can be a necessary means to a higher end

[NinjaFox]

Never said the old tech was better just find that at the time recommendations for QV2 wasn’t out do I decided to see what would work for me. Since after saint post about subliminals being a personal experience got me thinking about how best to use my stack to get better effect.

[BLACKICE]

@Budewr

barley face

That cracked me up so I googled it, that’s the first image result

[Budewr]

@BLACKICE

That cracked me up so I googled it, that’s the first image result

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH yo my man, my spelling isnt the best

i try my best though

[Matrix]

Well technology is getting stronger
@SaintSovereign
About the voice embedding thing. I want to ask a question (quite silly and stupid ). Like there is a thing in internet(ofc it is mentioned in my religion)called universal sound A_U_M or OM.Similarly Is it possible that there is exact pitch and frequency of human voice which is same for all humans at a basic level. I am not talking about robotic voice. I mean an exact pitch and frequency of voice where subconscious perceives it as a human voice and that voice (sound) is common in all human beings(or a voice that is similar to all or most human beings). If you use that voice in the subs is it possible that subconscious will receive the suggestions faster.
Ik its a very stupid question and has partially to no scientific base behind the question. Thanx for reading my query. But if bychance there is something like this can u say something ? Thank you

[Budewr]

its not stupid at all its intreseting!

[Leandros]

@SaintSovereign @Fire
I have another question regarding this subject-record my voice for better subabsorbation

When I hear myself on tape or recording, I don’t recognize myself.
My voice sounds foreign and somehow stupid

Is this different with the technology your building?

Does my subconscious recognize my voice?

And does it work better than what you have now?

[RockyHandsome]

QV2 is powerful i dont like this nonsense when people say “it dont work”.

Please align your listening with action.

Action 80%
Lisrening 20%

Peace

BA

[Matrix]

@RockyHandsome

QV2 is powerful i dont like this nonsense when people say “it dont work”.

It’s works way too beyond exceeding expectations. I understand it now

[RockyHandsome]

@Matrix its too powerful please listen to one loop every other day.

How is QL treating you @Matrix