Help: is it advisable to switch stack in this case?

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#1

I’m on my second day of washout from my stack and I think I’m not on the right track. My stack so far has been Primal + Ascension (to build myself and have more confidence) + Limitless Executive (for the studying). As for LE I was satisfied it gave me the motivation and improvement I needed in the study, but for Primal and Ascension that changes. On the social side I see that I have many shortcomings, I have started to notice my insecurity and my fear of being among people, women and the fear to hit on them. Then there is an old girl who has created trauma in me in the past that every time I see again I go into a state of sadness and depression and I can no longer enjoy the moment or talk to anyone. I have no friends and I feel alone, sometimes there was someone who invited me to go out among some of my acquaintances that I meet occasionally but I can’t connect with such people and with anyone in general, I don’t feel part of people, it’s like if I was a stranger. I am afraid that my presence is not accepted, I am afraid of annoying people with my presence and consequently I do not think I can be accepted by others and hardly be loved. Seeing these issues (for a while now) I wonder if I’m on the right track with Primal and Ascension, and I wonder if it would be better to listen to a healing sub like DR, because it’s difficult for me to build a foundation for being an alpha male with all of these problems. It’s seems like trying to fortify a broken vessel. I feel broken.

What do you think I should do? I need an answer…

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#2

Eh i would stick with it one more cycle and see what happens, its early. Sounds like it could be recon and Your stack is challenging your existing beliefs. Dont get caught in the trap where every time you feel something like this you automatically want to change, im sure deep work is being done.

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#3

@enigma12 That is great advice to follow. If I hadda known this fact I wouldn’t of jump subs so quickly In the beginning of my journey.

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#4

Stay on the path. You don’t need to change the stack. Sounds like you are finally confronting the stuff inside. That confrontation of those deep fears is healing. If you can handle it, try and stay with it for at least another 2 cycles and see what happens. If you’re having all this stuff come up, the good news is that the subs ARE working.

Saint has said here that conscious guidance is a major part of these subs. So, every morning why don’t you try writing down what you want from this stack. I promise you, if you stick with it, you will be shocked. Also, the more pain and fear, the bigger the change awaiting you.

You can do it!

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#5

Hey bro! I can relate with you exactly.
I was on the same ship as you are right now.

Unfortunately, I am still in the same ship. Do you know why?

Because I tried to complicate things too much and it went no where.

You should stick to your stack because your stack is great for your goals.

This stack will build your Foundation from inside out. This stack will give you the solution you need slowly but long term.

Sure, you could move to dare devil or true social for your social skills (like I did). But that would just be shallow level Change. And I gurantee you will not be happy with that.

You’re on the right path so stick to this stack.

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#6

okay I’ll stay on the stack and see how it goes.

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#7

I am currently writing a offline journal and writing what happens to me and also what I want.

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#8

All those things you mentioned sounds like Primal.

It’s supposed to manifest friends that love and enjoy you, for you to enjoy life to the fullest and feel freedom to do as you please.

Seems like you are reconciling hard on it.

Maybe some more rest days… I’m on the 4th day are so and it’s hitting me hard.

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#9

Interesting…

I am in washout right now. day 2.

#10

All I can do is present what I went through. But for me staying on Ascension was not the answer unfortunately. If you feel that way around others regarding closer relationships, there’s a 90% chance your own relationship with yourself is very dismissive. Which means there are deeper emotional problems you aren’t even fully aware of consciously.

First I wouldn’t run DR, I don’t think that would be much better because you still need a relatively strong foundation with DR. How long have you been on Ascension+Primal?

My advice would be to drop Primal. It might be too intense for you right now. Stick with Ascension solo and see how you do.

But I think in this situation it’s ok to change up your stack to something that agrees with you more and doesn’t cause as much recon.

It’s not a particularly exciting route, but what I’m doing now is just running Sanguine to keep myself stable while I dig into what’s really holding me back in life. Sometimes you’re in more pain than you realize and you have to slow things down a bit. I’ll say this, don’t feel pressured to continue a stack for the sake of toughing it out. I can say from first hand experience it rarely works and it’s better to start taking a more refined approach.

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#11

Two cycle now, with Ascension added at the second cycle.

Like what?
My objective at the beginning was to use Primal + Ascension as foundation to start running then a seduction sub and start seducing women.

So the best thing would be to continue only with Ascension?

#12

Can you feel and sense the Primal and Ascension script or are you simply not executing most of it?

Also do you have like a mental weight, denseness and possible headaches, drained energy / low energy?

#13

There were a few moments where I felt the Primal and Ascension scripts and felt good and confident, then for the most part I felt recon, insecurity and fears.

Only recently, during the last 3 days of the cycle I started to feel tired and even now during the washout.

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#14

After reading some of the journals on here, it seems to me that people who stick with the sub that’s difficult to run do get a breakthrough in those areas. These are issues that you were dealing with prior to using subs. Dropping one of the subs and including something like Rebirth, Regeneration or Limit Destroyer in your stack would be very helpful to your growth and execution. You can run that for one cycle then return to your previous stack and see how it goes. There is no wrong way to get to your goals. What works for someone else might not be what’s best for you. You have different options and priorities in life. You will have your answer by end of your washout.

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#15

See, I notice a lot on the forum that people are either executing the program and experience Heaven on Earth.

Or, they have “blockages” and the scripting is not being executed besides a few moments here and there. Eventually, you will execute it because if you keep walking you will reach the finish line.

But I believe it can be achieved much quicker…

If we are honest with ourselves, and others, our results and work towards improving the programs and helping each other to achieve the goals of the program. We are all friends and a community here right?

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I think it helps if you find a program you have NO blockages against. One that you can execute much reconciliation, and taking those positive emotions to help you achieve and overcome the blockages of the program you stack it with.

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#16

I also notice that when I’m using a new program there is a time where I’m not feeling whole and fulfilled because it feels like the mind is latching onto a new paradigm, and until it settled in that paradigm, and living it, I do not feel great.

If you get stuck in this phase ^ your life will feel dreadful.

There is a lot of internal positivity on the programs once you start truly executing them and achieving the objectives.

But subliminal’s have so many uses… I would of loved of their were more cores or programs that do not have objectives. That would make it much easier to stack.

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#17

It would seem a good idea to add, for example, Limit Destroyer instead of Primal, as a support to Ascension.

That’s correct.

As I said before my real desire was to run a seduction sub because I wanted to improve with women and find a girlfriend. I started listening to Ascension and Primal after talking to some users on the forum, in order to build the foundation for these seduction subs.
Would it be smart to jump straight to a seduction sub like Primal Seduction, being more aligned with what I want and would have more speed to execute? Or is it a bad idea?

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#18

I honestly do not know. I’m running Primal Seduction right now.

I’ve been overexposed and tired a lot.

With the older versions I has the emotional / energetic effects immediately which then caused me to experience new things and heal as a result.

With this version of PS I get hit with tremendous reconciliation and blockages almost as if it is too much at once instead of listening a loop and feeling a certain shift for several hours which I can then capitalise on to gain new experiences as I said.

On Zero Point I have not yet found my way to achieve those similar results because it often feels very strong, and profound very quickly. I sort of “collapse” mentally and emotionally.

So… with that said I’m not quite sure I do feel Primal affecting me but I’m mostly tired even when I meet with a girl who is asking to chill together I’m not feeling much of the alchemy at all…

Not sure what I’m doing wrong, but I have to admit from my own experience that with Q or even the version before that the alchemy was always there and a bad experience easily overwritten by listening another loop.

So idk

It’s like each time I ran a loop of those I all those limitations would again be demolished and I had a rebirth process (but minor) and not as profound and intense as the current files which I find often ridiculous lol. It gets me nowhere.

So I’m still figuring things out myself.

The healing is definitely changed.

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#19

Might as well be from the washout. Been feeling disassociated and disconnected even more than when I started running Primal Seduction and my libido has been gone even since lol…

#20

Maybe ask Saint or fire

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