Hard Gainer.. thoughts

Questions and Comments
#1

Considering I have posted this elsewhere and I have had no response, I will put it here.

I washed-out and started an Experimental pattern talked about for Hard Gainers.
Day 1: Genesis ZP x1
Day 2: Mogul ZP x1
Day 3: Limitless ZP x1
Day 4: Genesis ZP x1
Day 5: Mogul ZP x1
Day 6: Limitless ZP x1
etc

I am currently running full 15min subs, as per the following, and I am up to Day 12th now.
I have not (as yet) experienced any changes in things,
no changes in sleeping, no recon, no irritability, no sudden moods, everything it the same as day 1.

Thoughts? from anyone

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#2

It could take up to a month or even three months to notice actual changes. Assuming you take even the slightest unusual things as results as well.

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#3

No rest days for hard gainers?

#4

By rotating the titles, you expose the subconscious to different scripting in an attempt to get a reaction. The moment you get a reaction, whether it’s a good result — regardless of whether it’s grandiose or small, fatigue, headache, sleepiness, etc., IMMEDIATELY recognize it as a result and switch back to the appropriate non-experimental listening pattern.

So no rest days until this happens. Thats how i understand the hard gainer pattern.

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#6

That’s how I would interpret it but @AnswerGroup can clarify it

#7

  • Try just 1 program, you might be overlading yourself.

  • Minimal exposure, high absorption: Listen for 3 minutes in the morning, afternoon, and evening for one week, followed by a full week of rest. This method prevents subconscious overload, ensures deeper absorption, and leverages rest for integration.

  • Is it possible that small, incremental changes are happening, but you’re not noticing them because you’re focused on dramatic shifts?

  • Meditate so you increase self awareness and notice results more

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#10

Stonewalling can mean feeling nothing and zero results.

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#13

You are right there are various possibilities. It’s not just one or the other either… Recon is an effect whether pleasant or unpleasant.

Yes, you could just be a hard gainer. I take it you dont have any hearing impairment, and you use reasonable quality audio gear?

Some people also respond better to the ultrasonics.

Just giving thoughts :slight_smile:

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#15

Go for it, and keep us updated. I wish you the best of luck. Here’s to hoping you make progress :rocket: :sparkles:

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#16

@Hoppa if you were so kind to repeat what you’ve mentioned about the matter multiple times.

Sorry.

Thank you.

:snowflake:

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#17

Just in case someone else reads this thread later:

I do not feel anything on the subs. No recon either. I still get great results.

My mind is the most important tool that I have. I pay very close attention to my thought patterns and how I react in different kinds of situations. I don’t mind spending hours just thinking about the topic, even during the office hours.

Developing my mindset is one of my key priorities. It is the only reason I am as successful as I am (I’ve taken a dying family business from €140k/y revenue to at the time of the writing €2m/ y. We were stuck at 250k/y when I found SC. I mention this for the benefit of new users who do not know my history on the forum).

You can get great results without feeling anything at all on the subs. No highs or lows. No recon. Just results.

I chose to believe the subs work. I credit every single positive result to the subs, even if there was no clear reason to do so. I just choose to do so. And somehow it just works.

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#18

And these consistent “leaps of faith” (not even quite leaps of faith as is normally considered - there’s a support article on this for those curious), combined with open pathways of manifestation, taking action, an open mind that allows and welcomes change and experimentation, and a good dose of deep introspection on the how and why’s of one’s functioning, is the whole secret.

Excellent post as usual.

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#19

This is so important!

Cheers, @Hoppa!

One can choose to let the positive messages of the subs be part of your world and let them help redefine your world. These positive affirmations help effects to snowball.

Or one can choose to repeat in a quasi-mantra that subs aren’t working. Then they won’t work and won’t snowball.

It’s a subtle but incredible powerful kind of autosuggestion.

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#20

Made a custom a couple months back with True Sell/RICH/NWE , and didn’t “notice” things working, but my manifestation pathways were pretty terrible at the time.

Spent multiple hours per day applying for new jobs over the course of a month.

Landed a new sales position two weeks ago, ran custom with blind faith (customs always take a while for me to see results), and now I am closing with a pretty elite percentage for my space/offer and on track to have my best month in sales.

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#23

Bruh, if you have used these subs for all of this time, and aren’t seeing ANY results, and you are very results oriented, things either work or they don’t for you, perhaps it’s time to look for other solutions. This forum has basically 0 benefit for you in rhat case, and it seems you spend a lot of time, energy, attention here.

You also claim that you don’t have enough money to eat/survive, but a couple posts up you mention having a $12K computer and audio set up. Like cmon dawg, there is a reason you get 0 sympathy on this forum.

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#25

Rude and full of yourself. And a hell of a lot of assumptions.
YOU know you can do.

#26

Everyone, calm down. First and foremost, I agree with @sei – results do matter. And seeing the deleted post – not sure if a mod deleted it or if @sei did – it looks like you are at least putting effort into resolving your life situation.

Have you tried really sitting down and contemplating what blocks exist within you that could express as financial difficulty, but is actually tied to something else internally? Years ago, I had a terrible time running any kind of cognitive enhancement subliminal, even though I’ve always been classified as academically and intellectually gifted.

Couldn’t figure out why I’d get such recon from a script that by any measurable means, I should be able to process quite easily. As I began to contemplate and meditate, I began to realize that the blockage wasn’t the enhancement of my cognitive abilities, but rather boosting my intellectual prowess to the point where I would begin to feel “special.”

And contemplating that led me on a rabbit hole of inner self-discovery, where I ultimately realized that the idea of “being special” is actually linked to an innate distrust of anyone in a position of power and authority, since I have experienced and seen the abuse of power against those who cannot defend themselves.

I would’ve never ever imagined that a block regarding cognitive enhancement would be linked to an inability to claim my own sense of internal power and resilience, out of fear of abusing it and becoming what I hate.

While this may not make sense to you (or anyone), it makes sense to me, and once I was able to resolve that issue, cognitive enhancement titles became very easy to run, to the point that I have stopped running them because I became tired of “getting insights” and eureka moments all day when I just want to do nothing, lol.

So, you’re clearly trying to put in the work – the applications, the odd jobs, the research, etc. So, I don’t know if you have direct hangups on wealth generation. Seems to potentially be something else, something deeper, something that is just out of reach for those of us watching your story from the outside. Only you can answer and resolve this.

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#27

Thank you for sharing this very well explained insight into how human psyche works, it’s fascinating to understand and unravel the ramifications and associations on different levels!

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#28

I am a simple straightforward person. I truthfully, have never experienced much happiness.
I have spent my life trying, not giving up and trying some more.
Results don’t come, or when they do, they are just purely random moments.
I have never given much thought to esoteric concepts, because to me, things are black and white.
It works or it doesn’t.
I help others with the best of my ability, as people are deserving of help.
Things do not spin in my favor. They never have, no matter how much effort I apply.

Christ

#29

Do we offer something that would assist in going to the roots of issues or assist in having clarity?

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