Goal : No FAP & no Porn : Which Sub?

Thanks for you inputs, very valueable.

what was was your stack that included POM? and how long did you run it?

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From July to September, it was the custom alone. 2 loops a night was enough.
September to October I stacked it with UA but the efficiency was the same.

By August I no longer battled with Porn and constant masturbation.
3-4 months, approx. Worth it!
As long you add the PoMaQ module, you’ll be fine.

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Thanks for your feedback, I am right now selecting the title for the customs. a New year’s gift to myself probably

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Ain’t that one hell of a gift! Have fun choosing from the vast arsenal of modules from our folks at the Q Store.

not going for the custom now. Chaged my mind because of the costing : got [Primal Seduction: Iron Throne ULTIMA]. will run that all of January 2021.
Custom has been postponted to Feb 2021

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So I realize you’ve made your decision but I will add that I’ve had great results with the following Ultima Custom, made specifically for a 35 year-long PMO (Porn, Masturbation, Orgasm) addiction:

Stop Porn and Masturbation
Stronger
Energetic Development XI
Growth Through Pain

I also run Dragon Reborn Stage 1 with some other customs related to the Arts. I mention because I think Dragon helps with some of the forgiveness aspects related to the shame we feel when abusing PMO. As I said, my addiction is going on 35 years now, and before the Internet, it was magazines and videos.

I never ran the custom sub more than once per day, and now I find 1-2x a week, over the last three weeks has been more than enough to help the programming stick.

So I’ve been running this for six weeks and it’s been very interesting. Urges are gone. Even fantasies that would play through my head get zapped within a fraction of a second. I found this so fascinating that a couple times I purposely tried to fantasize in my head (don’t do this) and it still got zapped.

I’ll also add that I read this free, open source book at the three week mark called, “Easy Peasy” from easypeasymethod (dot) org. I have no affiliation and it is really free without any opt-in. HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend this book. It’s about a two hour read. Just follow the directions. No shortcuts.

I also suggest going through some of the posts on the r/semenretention subreddit. I like this better than the nofap Reddits because, at least with semen retention, there is a positive spin on what to do with the energy you are saving. u/fusion has some excellent posts there and has his own website artofsemenretention(dot)com. Again, I have no affiliation. I do take some of the Chinese herbs that he recommends (also listed on his website), which you can think about after a month of no PMO, but I don’t think they are necessary if all you want to do is stop PMO. I take them because I want to enhance the benefits of retaining my seed, plus I am in my late 40’s and there’s obviously diminished capacity for producing testosterone at my age.

While going thru this period, it’s important to put some of your new-found energy to good use, and I would recommend some meditation (imagining the healing air coming through your nose, down to your testicles on the inhale, hold it there for a moment, then exhale imagining the air going up your spine and out your third eye, hold again, and repeat. Start with 10x then work your way up to ten minutes) definitely some working out, either a good weightlifting plan, or some kettlebell work (I am doing 10K kettlebell swing program presently) or at least a good body weight routine such as recommended at the subreddit r/bodyweightfitness and/or 5 Tibetan rites. And look into cold showers (must do the deep breathing for a few minutes beforehand), starting slow and working your way up to a few minutes.

Stay away from junk food and other things that may have previously triggered you.

These are just a couple of the things I found that I think my custom sub led me directly to…remember it’s important to take actions wherever your subliminals lead you.

In this six weeks, there have been zero instances of PMO for me and barely a whiff of an urge. Time will tell, and I don’t actively manage a journal right now. I hope to come back in a year and write about how SubClub influenced massive changes in my life.

Good luck, friend.

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EQ for me. I quit smoking and I’m not interested in porn or fap.

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I saw this thread when it came up, and I immediately thought of Ascended Mogul.

When Fire created it years back, he slipped an anti-porn module in since some guys had asked a number of times. I’ve used AM sparingly, mostly since results aren’t as quick as solo Ascension or Mogul themselves. But AM is a lot more powerful over time than either separately.

But it’s always been in there. A lot of guys in this thread are newer, so I bring this up.

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The exact result i require…

in comparrsion to EMPQ?

Thank you so much for this detailed review, i greatly appreciate your feedback.

I’ve never heard reference to Emperor having it. I’m just aware that fire put it in ascended mogul.

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Emperor has the entire scripts of Ascension and Mogul— ascended mogul

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You are correct in that point. However, it was only in ascended mogul did he reveal he put the anti porn module in. From what I’ve read ascended Mogul had many more modifications then ascended or Mogul separately.

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@subliminalguy is pointing out that AM has the most NoFap success stories over all it’s versions. It is also faster acting because of the smaller script.

Generally, both EQ and SQ support NoFap as a goal, yet they contain Sex Mastery, and users respond differently to sexual scripting.

Like you are running PSITU, while @Phoermes mentioned Libertine & Diamond …
I personally would never succeed with NF, if I was playing those – as I would have too many sexual thoughts. :smile:


I have recommended Commander Ultima for this before. Click to read more.

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Thanks @Simon

I’ve written it on here few times in the past and in my personal journal when I ran Ascended Mogul solo without stacking another major sub with it, I had lots of success with Nofap. Saint and fire have both said AM has anti porn scripting in it. I’ll say this though from experience just listening to a subliminal alone will not 100 percent rid you from a porn addiction or sexual compulsive addiction if you have one.
Listening to a subliminal along with having healthy outlets in your life will give you the best chance to be successful at Nofap.
Each one of us have our reasons why we fap or watch porn. What need are you trying to get met with the fapping ? Once you figure out your WHY for fapping you can create healthy outlets to give to yourself.
Emperor also has anti porn scripting but since it’s a much larger subliminal then ascended mogul the script may not repeat as much as in AM.
Good luck brother

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completely agree the AM has some magic in it… against fapping.

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saint a long long time ago on here said fire scripted a very effective anti porn scripting and I definitely agree. On AM I don’t have the urge to fap or the desire to pursue women. AM manifested for me as in pushing me to be productive as possible and I was.I think it uses that sexual energy and directs it into productivity

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AM is the real deal. finally getting on to highway of NOFAP

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