I don’t think so. It’s an energetic cultivation title.
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Really surprised to see Wanted Black and Primal being on the same level. Especially surprised to see Primal being above Primal Seduction.
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@SaintSovereign actually I’m really curious about the development of Heartsong. Not timelines. Just what you guys are learning and applying to Heartsong and if any major parts of WDB or other titles have inspired the direction and future of that title?
I know it’s a tough run for a lot of people, and I think I get why, instantly manifesting a soulmate isn’t something most people are emotionally/literally ready for.
What might that look like in the future!?
I don’t know about soul mates but a title specifically designed for attracting those interested in more serious relationships could be interesting. Ethics, communication, budding social life, attraction, the ability to assess and discern whether or not it’s attraction or if they’re REALLY a good fit for you, the ability to discuss your feelings openly and end the anxious/avoidant games.
Ultimately we have a lot of “open relationship” titles that work perfectly but Heartsong might be the one that, if not dedicated to monogamy, could at least be dedicated to fully conscious partnerships where if you are going to open up the relationship, that comes in a consciously communicated way and only if it’s actually what’s best for the relationship.
My thoughts. What’s the team cooking up for us though 
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I think qOS mixed up KBC with Khan there.
No way it’s on par with WB?? In my past cycles I only felt the social aspect and for the current cycle I am feeling the social aspect but no romance/seduction related aspect at least on par with WB. Although this is the first time I have approached a woman properly so if I put myself out there more then the results would be more pronounced?
Is it redundant to stack Primal with other romance titles then since Primal is basically second best? I was thinking of adding WDB so women would approach me more and ofc I would approach them too, best of both worlds. But if Primal is so overwhelmingly strong then there’s no point of adding it?
Which seduction title would stack best with primal? & which social title would stack best from Summertime, Inner Circle, Dare Devil, True Social Dare Devil?
I want to be as charismatic and seductive as possible. Being very witty, knowing what to say exactly etc etc.
Its isn’t the ‘second best’ though. This a very vertical slice of what these scripts offer. The question wasn’t about romance or seduction or social graces, but manfesting/meeting women. I’m sure we broke everything down category by category there’ll be places where other titles excel
Is anyone using RICH anymore? Its baller title lol
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To everyone talking about the women manifestations…
You can open a new thread, and we will reply there. I can share my personal experience with such titles, and so can others.
Just open a new thread, quote Saint and yourself, and we will be glad to join the conversation.
tagged you & saint in my thread.
I had some anxiety, the way I worked through it was by really looking at all the financial leaks, habits and also reviewing my spending patterns. It was unpleasant, but building out a strong plan of action actually reduced, then eliminated the anxiety.
On some level I already knew what the problems where. RICH made me uncomfortable enough where I had to address the challenges one by one. Not sure if it will be the same for you.
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Thank you for sharing. It is kinda similar to me. Like a stubborn kid (for lack of better wording), it keeps reminding you and not letting you move on before you sort it out. No half solutions, no letting you pass and deal with it later.
It is probably good and beneficial, but it is uncomfortable as hell. I don’t know if I like it.
And yes, I would say I was also very self-aware of my issues, but RICH brought it “in my face”.
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I love your stubborn kid analogy, that’s exactly how I feel sometimes 
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Something that’s been helping me with that stubborn streak is a quote by Ray Dalio.
Pain + Reflection = Progress
Now when I’m in recon or have an intuitive nudge that a decision or course of action isn’t in line with what I want, I journal and reflect on things. It’s made the journey feel less like trying to brute force change to something much more collaborative.
I still have recon and periods of unpleasantness, but it doesn’t derail me like it did in the past. Also when reviewing my journal, I get to see the small wins. That’s become my fuel for some of those rough days.
All these things I want it’s already there inside me. So, with a little encouragement and a lot of grace, the whiny stubborn kid uncovers enough courage to grow into the objectives of whatever sub I’m running.
Which then allows me to step into my new reality.
In the past I’d eat a massive bag of gummy bears and watch a trashy movie 
. But I’m enjoying this new process more.
If you don’t mind sharing, how do you get past those challenging periods? Is there anything you’ve done that really works for you?
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That’s weird to me because it was extracted from WB iirc and it’s an incredible seduction/aura title for me.
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Nectar was extracted from BDLM.
Now you got me wondering about stacking Nectar and WB haha.
I imagine that’s part of the ‘problem’. Perhaps like PN when you don’t have a consensual partner all that sexual energy can give off a horny dog vibe.
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That’s what I’ve always done and wow it goes ham
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WB + RotNW and PS + PN are natural pairings and very powerful combinations.
The horniness is something you have to get used to over time. In the beginning it can be overwhelming, but at some point you learn to embrace it. A boner can be one the greatest compliments to a woman given that it is in a situation where it is not completely inappropriate.
What makes it awkward is either showing desperation or embaressment.
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Can we move the seduction stuff here:
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Good idea, there is a lot of discussion going on about women manifestation. This is very interesting information, but not so relevant to The NEW RICH. The old title had woman manifestation in it if I remember correctly. Maybe it can be placed in a seperate thread about women manifestation.
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Well said.
But if you wanna talk about manifesting cold hard cash, I recommend everyone run RICH for even a cycle. Admittedly I dropped it because I wasn’t in a position where I could take advantage of all the opportunities coming my way, but the little time I spent with it continues to pay off months later.
Easily something I’d skeptical newbies.
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Bro if it’s not personal to you, what do you mean by not being in a position to take advantage of opportunities?