@WinglissStark Betrayal can be tough to go through mate. Especially if someone unexpected or close to you. The fact that you are aware of the issue shows that eventually you can heal it and leave it all behind, don’t you think?
All the best 
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Something that helps me is to not think of safety in terms of all or nothing.
Something as simple as curled up in a blanket with some coffee can make me feel a little safe
Putting on some music and just getting lost in it.
Stuff like that. It helps to look for the small examples and build on it. It’s definitely a skill to cultivate, as crappy as that feels that some of us don’t get safety as a baseline.
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I’m here now
Started today November 13th 2025
I just ran a loop of DR Regeneration. Tonight before bed I’m going to run a loop of Godlike Masculinity
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Also to add to this, I have been tempted to run Dragon Reborn Gold with this but I am not sure if it is right for me or not at this point considering I can’t find safety within myself. Is it a good idea to run DRG?
Ultimately, that’s up to you to decide, but if I were in this position, I would remain on DR: Regeneration solo a bit longer, allow this trauma associated with feeling safe to resolve. As stated earlier, given the fact that you are actively externalizing it and actively looking for a solution (rather than suppressing, projecting or ignoring), the reconciliation phase is transforming into an integration cycle.
Dragon Reborn: Regeneration works best when the individual is simply living life, finding ways to embody safety within the self, even in small ways, like this:
You don’t really have to strive much with Regeneration. It’s remarkable in how it just helps you handle these issues at a rapid pace.
From the outside looking in – and this is just my personal perspective of a pattern that I’m seeing, I could be completely wrong, so I request that you take what you can and discard the rest: given that the titles you’re most interested in (Regeneration and DRG rather than Red) seems to indicate that you either unconsciously (or you’re aware of it) wanting to engage in some kind of moral and leadership refinement cycle, possibly equating being “moral” with being “unsafe.”
Which makes perfect sense in this world we live in, slowly spiraling toward madness. Since most people equate morality or idealism with being “weak,” it would make sense IF a pattern existed within the self that’s now reflecting outward.
Again, this is only a surface level analysis of patterns I’m sensing both collectively within society and within the smaller collective-like atmosphere of the forum. I am noticing more and more people (including in support questions) expressing interest in the moral refinement titles – DRG, and Chosen particularly. There’s been a huge upswing in people asking if we could expedite Chosen’s development, as opposed to running a more neutral leadership title, like Emperor.
What this pattern means, I do not know – we respond rather than overanalyze, but we also noticed that before Regeneration’s release, multiple people asked for features involving feeling safe within the body and safe within life itself. I can sense a subtle connection between the two – morality and feeling safe.
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Don’t we have HeO for that?
Though those act more as drivers towards mastery than as the goal itself, I think having a higher goal to justify adhering to your moral values works well to complement each other.
I wonder how it will be implemented with Chosen.
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Can you elaborate more on the difference between a moral refinement title vs neutral leadership title?
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Yes – you are correct that HeO definitely has a strong moral component to it. However, there are profound differences in the method of action. We’ve seen many reports from multiple people that upon using HeO, they began to mentally grapple with ideas of morality, expressing fears that the morality in the script would lead them toward martyr or self-sacrifice, taking actions that would leave them exposed to attack. Of course, the morality in HeO is rooted in a modern, universal form of the seven virtues of bushido (righteousness, respect, heroic courage, honor, compassion, honesty, duty), which does not leave you helpless at all, but the immediate cognitive dissonance expressed should indicate that HeO operates mostly with mental resolution of these issues, with a physical component to “lock in” the feeling of safety. You feel safe because you feel strong, knowledgeable, formidable and a leader of people.
Dragon Reborn: Regeneration helps with this through mental-somatic response. In other words, rather than the mental-physical nature of HeO (achieving morality through physical mastery of a “craft”), Dragon Reborn: Regeneration goes straight for helping you produce a sense of safety and calmness through the body itself. Giving you the tools to soothe the nervous system naturally, tools to help you regulate your own emotional response, etc.
Two different approaches to achieving “safety.”
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This is a very broad question, is there a specific concern or thought regarding this? That being said, the moral refinement titles are very blatant with their morality, lol. It is not hidden at all. Chosen series, Dragon Reborn Gold, etc. with notions of inner refinement toward developing a high sense of moral leadership stated directly in the copy.
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Lol sorry. I was just curious how a more neutral leadership title vs a morality title would present itself externally in the world. And I guess I’m sort of trying to figure out where I fall and what titles are best for me
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So Could HeO and Regen be good together as long as one stays on honing a craft?
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Understood.
I mean, it’s pretty on the nose with titles like the Chosen series. These are the individuals who lead primarily through presence rather than anything else. Their embodiment of positive leadership entices people to follow them lead because they believe in what the individual represents. If we dare to get a bit metaphysical with this, I’d argue that they aren’t really putting their “faith” in the individual’s hands, but rather seeing something within themselves, being reflected within the positive leader, which encourages them to achieve the same thing.
These are the positive builders, the leaders who act as silent guardians protecting their teams and colleagues, those who inspire good because they embody “goodness,” etc.
EDIT: Leadership in Emperor, for example, is more open-ended. While all of our titles have a slight humanitarian angle, Emperor has less of a focus on a particular type of leadership and dominance. Doesn’t mean that Emperor will generate “bad leaders,” or anything like that. Instead, leadership titles like Emperor will produce those highly resilient, “let’s get this done” types who have little patience for “shittery” and may simply resolve to bypass those who stand in their way.
It’s all about what direction the individual wants to go.
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Yes, this is a good combo. It will most certainly help cut through the mental battle between higher aspirations and lower desires that HeO can initially bring up to the surface. DR: Regeneration’s inner spa and inner emotional shield would help you resolve this with less cognitive dissonance or mental striving.
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In my case specifically, DRG attracted me becuase of the line - “if the idea of joy scares you then you should use DRG”. Also for some reason, I feel the multi-stage DRs can go absolutely deep and give me a complete revamp that I need - I am attracted to the transformation that they can potentially give me. But now that I am thinking about it, I think I subconsciously relate moral with feeling unsafe which comes as a bit of shock to me as I (atleast consciously) always relate morality with true strength. So whenever I act out of morality and I lose something due to it - people start calling me too innocent for this world or something but in my head I did because I can out of my own power. But, now that I see I may not exactly be feeling safe subconsciously because of this. Will have to dig deeper into myself.
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This is helpful to me.
I’ve been struggling to reconcile this idea of “feeling safe” with promoting growth. I think I’ve been equating feeling safe with feeling protected and coddled and avoiding risk, but I guess it’s more like detaching from fear and anxiety and other negative emotions that allows that feeling of “safety” to arise.
That I can understand.
Although admittedly the language “feeling safe” still triggers annoyance in me.
I’m not running Regeneration now but will be running a Regen/Water custom solo for a cycle starting around Christmas, so maybe I’ll be able to work through this then and get a better understanding and appreciation of it.
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I can understand this. The description of Regeneration probably isn’t helping, with many rejecting the very idea of a “spa” as soft or weak. But in expression, the effect of Regeneration doesn’t impart any kind of weakness at all, but rather a deep sense of resilience. It’s like you recognize that intense situations will still occur in life and those experiences are inevitable. However, with a calm and focused nervous system and inner life, you are more equipped to withstand those experiences and pull deep wisdom from them.
Given that the mind itself isn’t spiraling out due to the intensity of the crisis, the ability to learn and subsequently grow from those experiences seems to heighten.
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That makes a lot of sense, thank you for that.
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My personal romantic end goal of feeling safe, total safety in my body, is when there are no more boundaries and feeling of separation between my own body and the rest of my environment, where I can rest so deeply within myself in such a relaxed state that my identity expands dramatically in all directions even while moving around.
Still aware of the physical limits of I but without the ‘sensation’ level limits. Nothing left to protect, radiating such depth of trust that it radiates and makes everything around me safe, disabling the evilest evil by mere presence.
I will get there, and I will get there before the end of this life, no other achievement will satisfy me in this life, I’ve experienced it to a degree for a couple weeks over 15 years ago and briefly for a couple minutes more recently so I know this is achievable, some call it christ consciousness, I like this name even though religion is a mess, but it’s basically the embodiment in every cell of the physical body of pure life essence from the universal source of creation.
I got carried away, feeling good tonight, cheers 
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This title has been game changing, for the first time in my entire life I have felt myself enjoying my job?? Its a very wierd feeling.
I don’t think I can express just how dramatic of a change this is. I have been mentally kicking and screaming failing multiple times at entrepreneurship because of how much I hated my job even though its not a bad job. Now I can pursue the shit I actually want to do with out the desperation attached.
MVP title so far.
Current Top 3 Rankings in terms of dramatic changes:
- DR: Regeneration
- Primal Nights
- EoG (before upgrade, haven’t run the upgraded one yet)
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Really need to find time to run primal night 