I got something similar. I almost couldn’t tell if it was recon or not (it was not). There is a sort of discomfort with the amount of money I have, and a strong desire to get more.
The discomfort is not because I feel I am not good enough because of lack of money. It is more the sub showing me what I am really capable of in this domain, causing a frustration that I am nowhere near my potential.
I have that also, I want freedom, more luxury for me, my friends and family.
Edit: It’s not some form of desperation, nor it is some form of wishful thinking, it’s more of an inspiration. I can visualise it, I want it.
These subs go to deep, forcing a self reflection
Getting this feeling on regular Emperor
ECC is competing really closely with EMP/EMPB. There’s something with this I can’t explain in words. Either it’s just coincidence or guidance, but I’ve been seeing two books over and over. (Could be from stacking EMPB & ECC)
Alter Ego (which I have and read/used) and Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom (I bought it). So I thought, why not buy it and reread Alter Ego?
Trying to remember why I stopped implementing AE.
Journaled my results for this last week
Overall
I want to level praises for this, but honestly, I’m not sure what to make of it yet. Not super compatible with my main income driver right now. Some strong effects in terms of confidence, execution, and internal strenght- but that’s what I’d expect from Emperor. I didn’t see anything in terms of verbal or general ability on sales calls, capital, or lead quality yet to differentiate it. I will experiment with strategies for resolving this. My second most powerful custom hit like gold after the first listen, but my most powerful custom took 2 weeks of harsh recon to acclimate before overdelivering, so I’m not sleeping on it yet.
Seems much more Emperorish than HOM ever was. When I’m super on top of my game, this is amazing and has real advantages. There are reminiscent elements that feel way too much like Emperor for what I wanted from this sub. It’s go, go, go and filter, filter, filter. Which is great for its goals, but lacks the HOM versatility and so far is reminiscent of the pitfalls I experience on Emperor with this. Especially since the filtering has led to more frustration than a high-quality pipeline and the go mode throws the baby out with the bathwater of personal experience and access to nuance/creativity to deliver the result.
What do you guys think? C&C + The Golden One OR Master of the World?
Right now I am doing a new custom and put these two already. The Golden One had it in a previous custom running more than a year now. It is like having RICH in a synergy module - it is a continous flow of money (not big money, but a flow which I am happy with). I am adding also Cashflow for sure and Treasure Finder.
@SaintSovereign would sales and wealth manifestation results be better if someone uses C&C + Synergy: Golden but already has ASBR and RICH in their stack or would say it’s not necessary?
If it would enhance the results, what kind of results can one expect when using that module with C&C?
Is there a value in having NWE in a custom with C&C?
Previously, it was stated that for HOM/ASBR, it would still be beneficial for daily wealth manifestation.
Per @Parsifal suggestions posting this here as well as my journal for those that might find value in it.
Question:
“Emperor: Crown and Capital is a complete reimagining of Emperor: House of Medici, with significant evolution in both philosophy and execution. While the original Medici focused heavily on social relationships, trading intuition, and family dynasty building through external connections, Crown and Capital addresses a more sophisticated architecture: internal sovereignty (the crown) paired with systematic wealth construction (the capital).
Where Medici emphasized prediction and social mastery, Crown and Capital emphasizes strategic thinking, privacy protection, information control, and building financial structures that endure. The new version includes modern nervous system awareness and integration support, making the transformation smoother and more embodied.
I see a lot of skill development here, internal and external. e inclusive and less focused with broader, more base level application, but not as adept at delivering its ultimate outcomes
For me in sales, this has been huge- ” Using a number of powerful new modules, including the profound Transcendental Connection module, you’ll be able to consciously influence the depth of the relationship, and Medici will automatically help you make that relationship a fulfilling one that fits you, your desires, and your needs perfectly. If you ever desired the ability to create loyal, strong relationships that truly make you (and your family members, friends or lovers) feel good, whole and happy, Medici will help you, be they short or long term.”
Will it be necessary to add the Transcendental connection in a custom if I want the power of that module in this sub?
I find ASBR has been incredible in exactly that- burning bright- in whatever I do with little channel to evolve or grow it other than become a superstar in the sales work I do. Even with HOM, it has not been directed more meaningfully into outside entreprenuership. Will C&C support (with ASBR or not) in developing entrepreneurship without currently establish structures or clear concept?
Thanks and I will likey have more questions
Answers
Hi there,
Thank you for these incredibly detailed and thoughtful questions! You’re clearly an experienced HOM user, and I can see you’re trying to understand exactly how Crown & Capital differs from what you’ve been running successfully. Let me address each of your questions:
1. Core Scripting Differences – Family Well-Being
C&C is a complete reimagining, not just an update. Here’s what changed:
What HOM Emphasized:
What C&C Emphasizes:
Regarding Family:
C&C still includes family protection and legacy focus through “House of the Emperor” and “The Crown’s Shield,” but the approach is different:
If your primary family benefit from HOM was the deep relational connection and rapport, that specific mechanism may not be as prominent in C&C.
2. Transcendental Connection Module
This is a KEY question. The sales page does NOT explicitly mention Transcendental Connection as a feature in C&C. The relationship features in C&C are:
These are more strategic and filtering-focused, as you correctly observed. C&C appears to prioritize:
If you rely heavily on Transcendental Connection for sales/dating/short-term social adaptability, you may want to add it as a custom module.
3. Reputation Influence
You’re correct in your assessment:
C&C Approach:
This is more “Genesis Mogul” style (pure, clean, trustworthy) than active reputation crafting. C&C doesn’t appear to have specific “influencer reputation” or “known for X skill” building like a Lifeblood Fable approach.
If you want active reputation influence/shaping, that may need to be supplemented.
4. Discretion + Attention-Seeking Subs (ASBR, Khan, WB)
This is a GREAT question. Here’s the dynamic:
C&C’s Discretion:
ASBR/Khan/WB Energy:
The Stack:
These CAN work together if you use conscious guidance:
The sales page explicitly mentions this stack: “Combine it with A Stark Black Reality to merge raw ambition with imperial structure.”
However, there may be some reconciliation as your subconscious navigates “be bold and visible” vs “be discrete and quiet.” Experience level matters here.
5. Liquidity Protection
Great catch. “Protecting liquidity like oxygen” does NOT mean avoiding illiquid investments. Here’s the nuance:
Capital Focus + Treasury Shield + Tax Mastery together suggest:
It’s about liquidity management, not liquidity maximization. Private equity, real estate, etc. are absolutely part of the strategy—you just maintain liquid reserves strategically.
6. Wealth Generation vs. Structuring
This is a critical question. Let me break down what C&C includes:
Wealth Drive Components:
However, you’re right that C&C emphasizes:
It’s NOT explicitly “RICH Trader” style (ridiculous income, rapid acceleration). It’s more “steady empire builder.”
For rapid wealth generation, you may want to stack with RICH Trader, Ecstasy of Gold, or similar.
7. Confidence + Manifestation for Wealth
YES, C&C includes both:
Confidence:
Manifestation:
For immediate improvements/windfalls/quick capital:
The manifestation is more strategic and earned than sudden windfall-focused. It’s about positioning yourself where opportunities circulate, then capitalizing when they appear.
8. Mathematics / Financial Analysis / Intelligence
YES, C&C includes cognitive enhancement for financial analysis:
Explicitly Mentioned:
This is more applied financial intelligence than pure mathematics, but it should support learning markets, competitive analysis, and company evaluation.
9. Rapid Wealth Accumulation (Your question was incomplete)
Based on your concern about “shifting from decades to months,” here’s my assessment:
C&C’s Clear Outcome:
The “clear outcome” is: Build an empire that endures—internal sovereignty + systematic wealth that survives market cycles and outlasts your lifetime.
NOT the clear outcome:
C&C is strategic, patient, compound-focused.
If you want rapid acceleration + legacy building, you may want to stack C&C with RICH Trader or similar for the aggressive income generation, using C&C to structure and protect what you earn.
10. The Attractor – Passive vs. Active
Great question. Here’s what the feature description suggests:
The Attractor:
“Opportunities begin arriving through channels you’ve earned. A referral that feels unusually warm. A conversation that skips small talk. A room where everyone is competent. You meet these moments prepared.”
This suggests BOTH:
For marketing/scheduled leads:
The Attractor should help with quality of inbound leads and referrals, not just active prospecting. Your positioning, presence, and network make high-quality prospects more likely to find you.
11. Sales – Relationship “Warming” vs. Outcome
This is a nuanced concern. Here’s my read:
C&C’s Sales Approach:
Your Concern:
In human-centric services where you need to “warm people up” and many won’t be aligned initially, will C&C create conflict?
My Assessment:
C&C won’t prevent you from warming people up—it will make you more discerning about who’s worth warming up. You’ll still be able to dance with nuanced perception, but you’ll have:
If your sales model requires volume through broad warming, C&C’s filtering may initially feel restrictive. But it should improve conversion rates and client quality over time.
12. Entrepreneurship Without Established Structures
YES and NO:
C&C Supports:
However:
C&C is about architecture and structure. If you’re in pure “burning bright superstar mode” with ASBR but haven’t channeled it into business structures, C&C will:
BUT you still need to take action toward entrepreneurship. C&C won’t generate a business concept for you—it will help you execute and structure once you have direction.
With ASBR + C&C:
ASBR provides raw drive and superstar energy. C&C channels it into empire-building. This stack should help you move from “burning bright in sales” to “building systems and ventures.”
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Summary Recommendations:
Feel free to ask follow-up questions! This is a major shift from HOM, and it’s smart to understand exactly what you’re getting.
6 rest days since my full C&C loop.
I realized that I need to switch over to EoG 2 because this is where I will get the necessary skills and ideas for fixing my next bottleneck.
C&C is something to be used later on, several years from now probably.
Any comments on your experience in the following days after the loop?
@RagnarLothbrok - asked about Synergy: Golden One
@Azriel - you don’t need to add new To C&C (in a name embed at least… but NWE would still effect modules in a traditional custom)
Hello!
Great question about enhancing the wealth scripting in Emperor: Crown & Capital!
Short Answer: You don’t need to add New Wealth Experience Core to a C&C Name Embed – C&C already contains comprehensive wealth scripting that would make NWE redundant.
Between Your Other Two Options:
Since C&C already has the wealth manifestation and financial scripting covered, here’s how the other two modules would complement it differently:
ESSENCE: For The Love Of Gold – This focuses on your internal relationship with wealth. It works by:
Best if: You want to transform your mindset and emotional relationship with money to support C&C’s strategic wealth-building.
Synergy: The Golden One – This is a wealth attraction powerhousecombining 7 modules:
Best if: You want maximum wealth attraction, opportunity manifestation, and comprehensive financial dominion alongside C&C’s strategic empire-building.
My Recommendation:
For a C&C Name Embed, I’d recommend Synergy: The Golden One. Here’s why: C&C gives you the strategic mind, authority, and empire-building framework, while The Golden One supercharges the wealth attraction, opportunity manifestation, and removes financial limitations – creating a powerful combination of strategic wealth-building andabundant opportunity flow.
However, if you feel your relationship with money needs inner transformation first, ESSENCE: For The Love Of Gold would be the better choice to establish that foundation.
Let me know if you have any other questions!
I have been running this solo and I am gonna be completely honest I really don´t like the way this sub is making me feel. This could be extreme recon but the things I have noticed are…
It feels like it has become difficult for me to smile. I am way too serious and I don´t feel social at all, I just want to be left alone.
The confidence and the internal authority/sovereignty feeling is very strong but I feel way too stoic and serious for me to enjoy these internal effects.
There is some desire to change career to a better one but it is coming from a place of frustration in my current career rather than true motivation.
I ran this because I wanted a sub to motivate me to pursue wealth and the idea of an adaptive scripting sold me on it but I don´t think I could even enjoy wealth feeling like this lol.
Any tips would be appreciated because I really wanted this to work but i am about to give up on it.
Listen to 30s loops, stack with something you like, and take massive action in changing your job - that’s an awesome sign, your subconscious is trying to show you you’re not happy where you are,
Any king would be frustrated mucking stables
I have had similar feelings as-well. I dont think it is recon.
I find after taking action and being productive this goes away. I wrote about this on a post above.
More than anything for me the frustration was showing me how high my potential is and that I am not even close to it yet. Working towards that potential is very rewarding for me.
There is nothing really to report besides the few tiny things I mentioned above already. Details from my private journal:
Overall, it feels like I am a little more responsible that I actually have to do something instead of just sitting around. This is all too early to tell and judge for a new title though, as it was just one loop so far. I would need to test it longer, but switching over to EoG 2 is now more important for me. I have never ran EoG 2 before so looking forward how it will push me for the right type of action (combining it with EE).
In general, wealth titles seems to be a hit and miss for me and I still don’t know why. Either they manifest real results and push me to take action, or nothing happens at all (not even proper recon).
These are my 4 personal metrics of how I judge whether a wealth title works for me properly:
Has the title moved my internal wealth baseline and ceiling?
This is easy to measure because my total net worth is that metric. I know how many assets I have and what they worth at all times.
With EoG 1 neither the baseline nor the ceiling has moved upwards at all for the whole year. In the past, KHAN, Genesis and ASBR have successfully moved my financial baseline and ceiling.
Has the title manifested money and gifts from unexpected sources?
Easy to measure because you either get something or you don’t.
RICH Experimental ZP does this very well.
Has the title accelerated manifesting money and gifts from expected sources?
Easy to measure because you know when something is supposed to arrive and will know if it arrives earlier.
Has the title pushed me to take action towards income generating activities?
G:M and EoG 1 have not. But ASRB and EE have.
Again, easy to measure, because everyone clearly know when they are wasting time versus building something.
Disclaimer:
I usually run experimental stacks, where I use a title at least for several months but also in combo with up to 7 other others that I rotate through. However, in my opinion, this does not mean that my stack is “wrong” and “over the top”, because there are wealth titles that clearly work for me, despite being part of a larger stack. So it must be rather be about something, whether my mind is currently ready of doing something with the script or not.
I’ve been trying to dismiss this as recon, but I’m 100% agreed with this. It feels more Emperor than Emperor. I would say it’s almost Emperor Black, but Emperor Black created a deep enjoyment/emptiness/focus that led to drive, and felt incredibly calibrated; this feels serious and impatient. I would say agree that starting with less can help. But in my experience, even though I’m in recon, that effect is not recon.
I actually think this is like a Black Emperor Title for Wealth (although its still unclear on if its a wealth driver or structurer, support keeps mentioning in different questions to add EOG or other things for more immediate wealth manifestation. )
In retrospect, I wish I requested this as a multi-stage with updated HOM with new tech as stage 1 and this as stage 4. lol.
That’s not a path to ascension IMO, being thrilled making the most of the situation and then looking for a new opportunity is. King is based on capacity and responsbility not inherited right. Anger is a quick change agent though, and as long as we see adaptive scripting actually shifting people’s situation for real, it will be useful.
I see this to a degree
I ran it for 7 cycles, massive action daily, was strict with 3 titles ONLY. Nothing, New EoG ST1 did nothing after 7 months.
Started a business, poured money and time into marketing, product refinement, testing designing, getting feed back, SEO, I did everything.
Worked, manifested, applied for jobs, did everything you’re supposed to do.
Quit drinking, quit smoking, fixed my schedule. I did everything. My life was nothing but work and homework.
Not even a bite. Not a single product sold or even any inclination that one would be sold.
I’m actually seriously bitter about my experience on New EoG ST1.
Given that the older version actually worked, wished I’d ran the previous version for 7 months, TBH.
I hope I don’t make that mistake again, but unfortunately, the old version no longer exists, and I have zero faith in the new one after months of battle tested experience.