I love the new main features section.
It makes the description much easier to understand & navigate.
I hope it stays
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Interesting concept. No ideas what it means to have it as a skilled sub. But It will be interesting.
I wonder what this with a seduction title would do.
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For all people who dont allow themselves to be happy unless they reach this or that goal…
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I was seriously moved to tears reading this copy. This is exactly what I need in my life. I have tried and continually failed to establish habits and mindsets that move me further towards joy vs the familiar anxiety anticipation that leaves me in a frozen state. I’ve been doing so much work on myself and more and more I realize it’s the experiences, not the knowledge that puts me at a deficit. I don’t understand joy and happiness because I don’t practice them. And I entered a weird limbo where the lack of these things made me truly believe they aren’t real or can’t happen.
I had some pre-results from this title. I was at a therapy session and we were going over how I’m always preparing for the worst. So much so there’s no room for joy. I decided on that day to shift my focus and energy to the things I can look forward to, that make me feel good, to dream bigger and give myself the best. To start to genuinely feel that vs doing it because I expect myself to feel better was a shift for me. And to stop being afraid of being hopeful for more out of life.
I’m genuinely afraid of running this title but I’m looking forward to it because I know it’s tackling a deeply dysfunctional part of my life.
@SaintSovereign @Fire thank you for making this title. Words can’t express how grateful I am.
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Damn after reading the copy ngl I was correct that this sub will be rocket fuel to a lot of people. Me for example, I am a person that suffers heavily from analysis paralysis, especially when it comes to starting routines for the better. Makes me just end up hating the process most of the time because it has to be perfect. Embracing failure and at the same time learning to just enjoy the process, can literally change anyones perspective and results in life.
Excited to run this tomorrow!
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How dense is this sub? Is it Ascension/Glm light? Or much more wordy
As far as the sales page format, I like the old style better. It was like a story you read finding information as you went through it. You actually had to think.
This new format is so simple and dumbed down that I don’t even want to read it. There’s no story anymore, maybe a simple plot followed by categorization of features within the subs framework.
Sales pages like Emperor, Primal and the Revelation titles are awesome to read. Just my opinion. I know many love this new style but I don’t.
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Was going to write a long post here, but all I have is I completely disagree lol.
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Now I wanna say this, with how crazy the world has become in the few recent years and all the suffering that is going on in our lives as well as others, titles like this are a genuine gift to us and the world. @SaintSovereign and @Fire its really dope that you guys release titles like this, especially for free, in a world that is becoming more and more chaotic, you two just genuinely try to make the world a much better place in your own way and thats awesome. Honestly I think a lot more people should take this example from you two.
I myself as well as everyone else am incredibly grateful for what you guys do for us.
Thank you
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We all have opinions. Just sharing mine. No offense meant to anyone. I just personally like the other style.
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I’m curious too.
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It’s thick with Happiness & Joy!
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Had to say the copy is really good.
I tried a quick three Minute loop.
I have this happy smirk on my face. Can’t wait for it to fully kick in.
Also just received news that a forum member is staying super close to me.
I now have a subclub bestie to chat with.
Yassss
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You’ve done it.
Can you imagine how this title may affect people with addictive tendencies, chronic depression and anxiety? If this doesn’t unstuck people, I’d be very surprised.
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Tbh I was thinking the same thing. While I know they can’t say it due to legal reasons, but it looks like it can really help people that have ADD/ADHD. Enjoying the process to success, to enjoying doing mundane tasks like cleaning, organizing, or just staying on top of things is very hard for people with ADD/ADHD
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Totally agree. And If I were to have just started Subclub now and have ADHD, I’d pay extra for a service to only have this unlocked to run for 3 months. My place in life would be significantly different and more focused. Sometimes you need protecting from your own negative thought loops keeping you unhappy. Now that, is extra value.
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I agree and disagree
I do see tremendous value in the simplicity and succinctness of what is explained here
I do NOT want to see archetype, mystery, room for interpretation, stories, the epic nature of Sub club water down to be more palatable and clear to the masses. Although maybe that’s selfish since it could benefit sub club and more people. I like being blown away by what I read as well as well.
My vote is for both.
That said @Geoff did your read the intro-before the breakdown-it’s actually quit poetic and good narrative
I’d love to see a revision of Khan, ASBR, or Emperor with this new copy style and see what the differences are actually like.
I wonder if for me, not being clear helps things be better. On the other hand the gems that are dropped about the deeper workings and specifics of subs are ‘pyschoactive’ to me, meaning the subs performance improves for me after I understand and learn that element.
That said I have a visceral aversion to this sub content-(joy and happiness) and am wondering if I am the grinch lol. Perhaps my dark ego craves the shadows of non-happiness and productive toil and fears the light blast of joy the will dismantle it.
Edit: I do objectively think the title looks great. Just not drawn to it personally at this time. I am curious to see how it will tie into EOG.
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I was actually going to write about this in my post. The really sad part of not having the best early life experiences is it becomes entirely your responsibility to move on from something that requires fundamental skills you didn’t receive. I have ADD/ADHD, me and routines don’t get along. They just don’t stick, so it’s been a nightmare to develop positive habits on top of the crushing weight of all the other things ADHD makes difficult for me.
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Especially if stacked with LB. Absolute life changer
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Yes, I agree. You detailed this point better than I did.
Yes, the intro was the best part. To me this new format feels like a restrained style of Saints incredible skill of creative writing. It’s fine to simplify and spoon feed points of the sub features but it feels like a minimization of Saints gift which is his story telling of the subs expression. It’s my favorite thing about SaintSovereign and I just don’t want to see it distilled.
I think so, at least for me. It gets me thinking, searching my experience of the subs effects on me. It almost sparks my mind to make more connections to the sub by not having it so crystal clear.
Good response bro, you helped me understand my own opinion on the matter better.
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Absolute life changer for sure!
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