Is it normal to have FOMO during a washout? Basically a feeling of wanting to run a sub during a washout?
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Itās a thing sometimes.
Yes. It could even manifest at the avery moment that you are listening to a microloop!
Remember that youāre not truly missing out in the long run, as there is still processing in the underground.
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How many days washout do you do?
12-16 days, I try to go two weeks at least.
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Thatās a very good idea. I normally do only 3 days washout. Rarely I have also done a month or two washout period.
I think of it like this: the subliminal is still running in my mind even during the washout. What Malkuth calls the processing days (rest days), washout time is something similar to this when we achieve the bloom and still get results.
So I donāt normally feel FOMO during this time but there are rare occasions when I do want to run a subliminal depending on the circumstance calling for it. For example falling sick and wanting to run Paragon Complete. Other than situations like that, I donāt feel like am missing out.
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Yeah idk Iāve been feeling hella recon since reading this dating book for the last 3-4 days, and I wonder if itās because the principles in the book contradict some of the sub scripting or something 
but yeah I think that could be why Iāve been thinking of switching subs/feeling fomo etc. Or itās just recon.
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Iām doing a long washout. I get FOMO myself but reading about Season three has helped me be patient with waiting . Being patient has been a life long issue for me but somehow very recently Iāve somehow managed to keep myself way calmer when I feel stress coming on.
I may not run anything until October or November.
Iāve been reading Ego is The Enemy by Ryan Holiday. Something about that book has just been a life changer for me
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I find that this depends on how grounded and in touch with reality you are/your mind is.
The less in touch with reality you are, the more FOMO youāll experience.
Itās mostly related to perceptual/somatic restlessness and imagination content.
The ironic thing is that (to adapt FDRās famous phrase) the only thing that puts you in danger of missing out on anything is FOMO itself.
And even that is not particularly dangerous; because it can be addressed immediately and right in the moment.
Addressing FOMO is a simple matter. But as usual, āsimpleā and āeasyā are distinct matters.
Picture yourself as a mollusk that stretches out its super-sensitive tendrils to touch and contact the world around it. Those tendrils are excellent at gathering information, but the information is sometimes so intense or unpleasant that, upon making contact, the tendrils immediately recoil and withdraw, like the sensitive antennae of a snail when touched.
Touching a snail in slowmo (shot on one plus 6T McLaren Edition)
byu/Rakezombie insnails
Anyway, once that recoil has happened, your experiential attention is no longer āin touch withā reality. Life looks exactly the same as it did before, but the difference is youāre no longer actively taking in āliveā information. Youāve sort of replaced the world with a series of high-definition photographs that look exactly like the world. So people often donāt even notice that anything has changed at all.
But in this state youāve become āOntophobicā. Thereās a fear of experiencing or touching reality as it truly is.
Thatās the condition from which FOMO tends to arise.
Basically, your mind senses that itās not in touch with things the way it should be, but it does not really understand why.
And like any phobic, you will run around trying to do everything to address the problem except for the one thing that will actually work: facing and addressing the feared thing.
The moment you touch reality as it really is, and work to maintain that contact despite the periodic discomfort that arises, the FOMO disappears or gets seriously downgraded.
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Its very interesting how you described FOMO here.
Its basically the same as trauma. A disconect from realityā¦i bet there is a connectionā¦to tired today today to think about it 
On Topic: I did a 2 week washout now for the first time in 10 months of sub use and its amazing. Ots really nice to take a step back and see everything blooming and seeing how everything integrates together. Its also a great chance to see how life is without the subs processing in the subconcious.
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Agreed.
Trauma and Microtrauma.
Parts of life. We get bogged down if we donāt refresh/recover. Ironically, sleeping/resting (and washing out) helps with this.
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would you mind share a bit more about those longer period washout experience ļ¼I noticed thatā¦I personally will reach a āblank stateāafter day 12ā¦I meanļ¼like all the scripts processing has finishedļ¼just nothing moreā¦no processļ¼no bloomā¦feel nothingā¦not good ļ¼not badā¦like everything just become normalizedā¦ā¦but I just know that the base has been raised ā¦so how is it like when you do a month or two longer washout ļ¼ 
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Thatās quite a nice description of it. I do feel something similar.
I have only done this rarely (maybe 3 times in 4 years) but itās more due to a feeling of taking a rest.
Not due to running too many subliminals though since I stick to listening instructions and only listen over the recommendation in case of a rare emergency. And that too only one or two loops of a particular title on a particular day to take care of the issue. And then it will be several months before another emergency arises. These days, am more strict with myself and donāt do āemergency listeningā like before. Since itās our mind anyways thatās Influencing our reality whether we listen to subliminals or not.
But to get back to the topic, I found it useful to give my mind a rest and let it be when doing a long washout. Just cause I felt like it. I didnāt know exactly why I did it at that time. It wasnāt really for a particular reason. I didnāt plan that I would do a long washout. It just happened to be long. A 3 day washout became 5, then a week, then two weeks, then a month, and then 2 months.
In hindsight, maybe it was just an intuitive push to do so. Something the subconcious mind wanted after so many months or years of subliminal input. To gain something like a āDopaminergic Revivalā due to the rest from subliminal input thanks to a washout.
And when I started back on a stack after said long washout, I felt as if I was starting from a whole new base of mindset to then elevate possibly due to the settling down of all the subliminal scripts which I have run in the past before that long rest period.
So it was an intuitive accidental discovery which I kinda enjoyed. And I donāt plan to deliberately do a long washout again unless my subconcious just does it again.
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thanks for the sharing ā¦ 
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My washouts usually fly by so fast, itās time to start listening again before I know it.
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