Fire's Journal v2

For a couple months now I’ve been wanting to restart my old journal, and document some of the things I’ve done personally, including experiments with released/unreleased titles.

And that’s what we’re going to do.

Last year, I did approximately a year on Paragon Vitality + followed a very regimented health protocol - this has resulted in some quite interesting discoveries on my health, as well as overall improvements to it. This has paved the road to the two subsequent titles I’ve started running - Hair Protocol and an experimental version of Emperor Fitness.

For the past two years, I’ve basically completely stopped gym/working out, in favor of complete focus on Neidan practice and teaching - which has resulted in an unfortunate pouch being developed in place of my old six pack - so now I’ve begun a strict 4x20 minute regiment of calisthenics, as this doesn’t completely impair the body for serious spiritual practice. Sensitivity still takes a hit but it is what it is.

The new Emperor Fitness (let’s call it Reforged) has been extremely effective. While I wanted to cut down, it seems I’ve basically been losing fat at a rapid pace and at the same time gaining muscle again - chest has grown much more than before in my bodybuilding days.

And this isn’t newbie gains where you can do both easily, or the common mistake of thinking you are gaining muscle when in fact you are leaning out - no, there’s actual muscle growing and filling out in places it hasn’t been before. After years of bodybuilding, any such change is noticeable right away.

It’s quite… insane. And this week, I’ve added carbloading to the mix, which has allowed me to train much harder with less tiredness overall, while losing fat even faster.

I suspect with Emperor Fitness Reforged, I’ll likely overshoot my most shredded physique in a couple months.

As for the second title I’m running - Hair Protocol - I’ve sadly started losing hair on the top. Classic male pattern style. While I can rock the bald or buzzed look, I simply feel more like myself with hair, so I’d rather not lose it.

Well, not anymore. All hair shedding has stopped, and regrowth has begun. The temples are starting to grow in with an insane amount of new hairs coming in. I used to have a jungle on my head - that’s how dense my hair was - and over the years saw more and more hairs in the shower drain.

So to see that hair shedding has completely, 100% stopped, is quite insane, and its even crazier to see the frontal part and temples growing in. Today I buzzed my hair, and within the next 3 months I’ll likely have my full hairline back - and then I’ll go long hair.

Of course, it’s a whole process that Hair Protocol guides you through, hence why we always say to take action. But even something as “impossible” as hair regrowth can be tackled, if you just listen and take action.

As for the emotional side, it’s still strange to think my father passed away - sometimes I catch myself wondering why he isn’t chilling in his chair, and then remember he’s gone. Other than such moments, there isn’t any super strong emotion - this is mostly due to my Neidan practice, and the developed deep inner calm from it, as well as the constant cleaning of the internal system. It’s a difficult thing to explain to someone who has never felt it, but it was extremely useful in helping my family get through such a crazy time.

PEACE however, aims to help one develop deep inner peace, so for those who think this sounds like a powerful state to develop - go for it.

That’s it for tonight - we’ll see how the new Emperor Fitness performs, but I have quite high hopes for its eventual release.

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Hope these questions arent invasive,you can just ignore them if so but are you taking any measurements (arm size,leg size) or peds? Would a pyhsique pic be possible? Aldo height and bodyweight? Bodyfat?

Im really interested in bodybuilding myself

I have such tremendous respect for you @Fire - I wish continued support and love for you and your family.

This is of real interest. How would you say strength training dampens energetic sensitivity compared to traditional spiritual practices like Neidan or Qigong?

Unlikely, we like our privacy.

And @gerard - no need to delete.

Basically, it’s a line. The more you go into physical training, the harder your body becomes, which becomes worse and worse for advanced spiritual practice.

Your body becomes “wooden”.

What I’ve found in my personal experience, is that spiritual practice is at its best when there’s minimal to no physical training - but of course you’re leaving on the table health benefits, which can be highly desirable.

You also might find yourself gaining weight, which can lead to things like feet pain if you do a lot of practice - which is also a detriment. Traveling to faraway places will also be harder (unless you know specific methods) - but if you are traveling regularly to such places (like mountains), then this is less concerning for you as this will naturally temper your body.

For this approach, walking would likely be most beneficial to keep weight off, without compromising on practice.

Next step up I’d say is calisthenics. You can get a good, natural, fit and athletic body with just some simple exercises, but you need to be careful with harder things like rings - this gets into the territory of resistance training. Overall, I can definitely feel the impact calisthenics has on my practice - it’s harder to get deeper into the body, to relax more deeply, there’s more of a “shell” to it, but I can practice for longer (which, if you’re practicing correctly, you should be able to practice effortlessly regardless) without getting tired. And no weird pains or health issues due to excess weight.

Final I’d say is resistance training. Weights, rings, extreme calisthenics, bands, basically anything that allows you to load your body externally in a more strength-demanding manner - and good luck. I did it for two years, and I did make some progress, but ultimately if you have serious spiritual goals, you have to say goodbye to the gym.

It completely locked my body up, and the difference of two weeks off gym is immediately noticeable. I wish it wasn’t so but, it is.

Now, there’s also another tier - this would be physical exercises that are actually spiritual in nature, and actually help you develop the body and practice at the same time.

This is much harder to find, and it’s harder to get the same “Western” training benefits like when you’re really pushing yourself, but this would be the most harmonious. One example would be some exercises from Taiji performed really low to the ground.

Personally, I’m yet to find methods that would give the same Western style external body with its benefits, while also not impacting practice.

Back in those days, there wasn’t as much of a focus on a good physique - you won’t really see a shredded to the gills Chinese in the times of Huangdi. Hence why such methods aren’t really prevalent. I’ve heard of some, but have yet to see them.

So ultimately, you have to try for yourself and weigh the pros and cons. Calisthenics Is the furthest I’d go, and if you want to look good while continuing with your spiritual practice at a good tempo, go lean.

Let go of your dreams of being like Kyriakos.

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Sight this is essentially why I chose a different lineage. I was originally gonna do Damo Mitchell’s Internal Arts Academy but found out that around year 2 or 3 you pretty much gotta give up all bodybuilding to go further into the system.

I ended up going with Flying Phoenix Chi Kung(sifu Terry Dunn) because it seemed more like a householder lineage. But overall I can’t give up bodybuilding, I love it too much…

I was just gonna ask you, is the no bodybuilding rule strictly a Neidan practice thing? And can you still further in the system if you do bodybuilding anyways or is there just a hard rule of no?

EDIT: NVM you just answered it rigth above this post LOL

New Emperor Fitness???

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Are you saying that you can still make progress if you do strength gym training, just at a much slower pace, or do you just hit a ceiling?

Personally I found qigong and vinyasa yoga, which emphasizes smooth transitions coordinated with the breath, complimented each other nicely enough for my purposes. Maybe not the intensity of exercise you’re after though.

How would you say the new EF compared in terms of fat loss to LoTs. I went from 200lbs to 143lbs two years ago at 10% bodyfat (measured by a DEXA Scan) and I’m currently maintaining at 12% bodyfat at 167lbs. I did mini cuts sometimes in the year to get down to 10% again for photoshoots and content but I’d rather stay at 10% (it’s where I look my leanest and best) year around at 2800 calories (my current maintenance) instead of doing the constant cycle of cutting then increasing calories again.

Considering the new EF achieve this better than LoTs? LoTs is great but it makes me grow too much body and facial hair so it makes it hard to run long term as I don’t like having hair on my face or body lol. While it does help with maintaining 10% easier it still makes it a bit hard especially for someone like me who travels for work and does other stuff so I’m wondering how the new EF would compared in terms of fat loss if added as third sub in the stack. @Fire

I will send you my before and after to you and Saint right now so you see my transformation.

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Looking forward to this journal! :memo:

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I’d be interested to hear more about why it locks the body up. Is it because you’re constantly putting the body under a damage and repair cycle that takes away energy used for the spiritual work? Or like a nervous system thing?

@Fire we need a physique update. :eyes:

Bro built the physique and put it on silent mode

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Down 6 pounds of fat since last week, no water weight, with increases in rep counts by 5 each workout. This is purely calisthenics, no weights, due to Neidan practice.

In other words, got stronger, fitter, while losing 6 pounds of fat. On top of that, chest has been filling out like never before - better than in my bodybuilding days.

Actually pretty insane, and physique is tightening up mad fast. The EF Reforged prototype is a different beast from what it used to be.

As for Hair Protocol, things have stabilized a bit - there’s a thin layer of fuzz, almost like a buzzcut, growing underneath my existing hair. They are smaller and slower to grow, so I suspect they still have some phases to go before they mature into proper hairs. Once they do though, my hair should be twice as thick - maybe one more phase or two of such “fuzz” and it’ll be back to my thickest when I was younger.

The weirdest part of it is, Hair Protocol is definitely pushing down my hairline on the sides, so if it keeps going like it is, I’ll have better hairline than in my young days.

Yes, it’s a prototype we’re testing for a future release.

It’s a gradually slower and slower pace, and at some point you’ll naturally just want to stop, because it won’t feel good for your body.

Taiji has some exercises that can develop the body, but haven’t found the level of physical muscular development I’d like mixed with spiritual progress just yet.

All of it. It stresses the body due to the damage/repair cycle, takes away energy and tires out the nervous system. That’s why you really want to avoid deadlifts, squats, bench presses - anything that really stresses out the nervous system. And you want to avoid pure isolation exercises, as those lock up the specific muscles.

In other words, for Neidan - better to just drop the weights, and limit oneself to calisthenics at the most.

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What? Are you saying your pecs are growing faster from bodyweight pushups compared bench press/weighted dips? This is hard to believe i just have to be honest man no hate

Crazy

I am also cutting now. I think I have entered sub 15%.
There is just slight fat covering the lower 2 abs.
But for me I haven’t seen any strength gains. Mostly maintaining what I have.
#leanislaw

Looking forward for ef reforged

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Are you taking any other hair supplements / treatments?
Or is this only hair protocol?

Highly recommend trying Red light therapy on you’re scalp for hair growth. Had great success with it.

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dat dere…

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I have same experience with old Khan Black and yoga. With Khan Black, I start practicing yoga and continue doing til now, feel and sense my body as well as energy flow more and more.

Whenever I go back to weight training to have a bit of muscle and strength, I can feel the blockage, my energy doesn’t flow like usual. So I just do bare minimum like push up, plank and squat to maintain the muscle and strength, no more with heavy weight.

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Can you give sneak peak regarding the structure?

Which Stage are you running?

Can I ask what kind of Neidan teacher you recommend?

I recently got into it, but there’s like 323131 teachers, and a lot of them seem to be shams. Some seem cool, but what would you recommend for a beginner in Neidan but advanced in spiritual practices, like TWIM and more mind consciousness stuff?

I was gonna go deep into Neidan with Khan Black and Hero Light. I think it’d be super cool! :slight_smile:

P.S. Also loving the new Khan Black!