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#167

I can’t comment because I never did this pattern.

I always did 2 per listening day.

This 3 per day pattern works well and simplifies the overall experience.

But as I said, with this listening pattern, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to do full loops of all 3 comfortably.

From experience running only 2 subs per day, I always felt that around 20-25min max total exposure is my limit.

Beyond that, I get overexposure symptoms and the experience becomes more harsh and disruptive which lower results for me.

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#168

Can we do 30s of one program, 5m of another program, and then 3m of a third program?

#169

If you have no recon, you can do it.

#170

You can do it but in this case this guidelines/instructions is no longer applicable; your usage might be better suit with the standard 26 day cycle.

#171

@SaintSovereign Is this a strict requirement or is it just a way to streamline the process & make it easier?

#172

No its fine I like this new listening schedule just that some programs I may like less exposure than others. Not everything will perfectly be in alignment. Some programs I have a lot of time with others are new so the exposure rates should be different to avoid reconciliation. But then it may get overpowered. See where I am coming from with this question?

#173

Yea I got it. I am also practicing the guidelines myself and on top of building a foundation gradually and smoothly my reasoning is to keep it simple and not overthinking or overcomplicating the listening sessions. If I were you in this case I’d stop listening the old subs and only listened to the new subs for a few sessions for them to catch up. What do you think?

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#174

After about 3 weeks of experimentation with 3 subs a day with a peak at 7min each sub, I decided to come back to 2 per day.

Yesterday I ran 7min Wanted and 5min GLM and the experience is day and night.

Integration is quicker and deeper and execution is smoother and more natural.

I have come to the conclusion that the current technology of these subs and my own capacity of integration makes it more effective to stick to 2 subs per day.

It felt like my processing bandwidth was about 40% with this amount of exposure, 2 subs total 12min.

I’ll give personal measures of intensity/effectiveness/comfort zone of different exposure for the founders if that’s of any use, 100% being very intense and uncomfortable, and 50% very smooth and comfortable:

2 subs 12 min 45%
2 subs 20min 65%
2 subs 25min 75%

3 subs 12min 65%
3 subs 15min 70%
3 subs 21min 80%

PS: there’s an extra layer to these numbers which is 80% from 2 subs still feels smoother than 80% with 3 subs.

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#175

I think even 20% bandwidth is too much to live a successful life you want to keep yourself at full performance and this is only possible when you don’t carry too much load.

Just like a computer it is not good to run into too high cpu. Once you really stretch the capacities too far programs will start crashing and certain background processes will start malfunctioning.

This is exactly what starts happening to me when I go too far overboard with overexposure.

I think like a subliminal program it is like downloading and installing a computer program, after installation you can use it without too much load. These first two phases will take a lot of bandwidth. Once you have spend lots of cycles with a program it will probably feel very light to run.

If you run 3 new programs these percentages you shared will likely look very different.

#176

Increased my listening time yesterday from 45 seconds to 1 minute for my stack (GLM/Water, Wanted/Earth, and Fire)

Already hit with recon yesterday and today in the form of more emotional neediness towards a girl who I view as an ideal future partner, but who is just a long distance friend as of now

Gotta reduce my listening time back to 45 seconds lol

#177

So, one question came up. If I listen to a title with an anti-recon script and another one that doesn’t have it yet, will the anti-recon work on both? @AnswerGroup

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#178

Sounds like it. If you have the anti-recon module in a custom or a newer core with it or run a newer store title with it- should effect whole stack.

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#179

Yeah exposure is crazy. I still can’t figure it out.

Went from 30s to 1m and it is so unpredictable, totally bad reconciliation episodes for almost two days. To the point where I want to quit all subliminal programming and got into a depression state, very bad head tensions and pressures.

Basically just tired of getting this kind of bad recon and on 30s even the same thing is there but more manageable but results are also not so profound on the 30s.

Like one day for an hour I’m seeing very positive results, I love subliminal programming in that moment then not even a few hours later I can be in a very bad reconciliation episode and not even remember the good results. Its constantly like that for me. Very inconsistent kind of progress I feel like. Anti recon has not resolved this for me it is more an exposure kind of thing, I believe.

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#180

What’s your schedule like? I’m wondering if you’ve ever tried having more rest days between listens

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#181

The new listening instructions tell us to stay at a listening time until there is no recon.

I’m still getting small but manageable bursts of recon too at 45 seconds, so I think I should keep it here until there is ZERO recon and only positive results, then I’ll increase again.

Even if the results aren’t as crazy as we’d like, it’s worth getting something more mild for the time being while keeping recon low to avoid that rollercoaster, otherwise it could get too intense.

Maybe stay at 30 seconds for a while? Until your recon really zero’s out

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#182

Obviously I have tried all of that I have been using these Zp’s for a long time now and whenever I hit overexposure I get the worst recon you can think of which makes me completely want to stop all subliminal programming it is the most annoying thing.

I get recon about the overexposure because it has become a returning phenomena that every so often causes me the worst mental blockages and depression for a few days. Just a state none wants to be in. My entire beings gets blocked and disconnected from life. I would like to prevent this but it is just impossible it always comes every so often. I think I have it at least once a week or so. Can’t quite predict it and when it comes, how long it stays, how hard it hits is all a bit variable. But the whole thing is that it is very unhealthy and the worst experience I would like prevent and it just keeps coming even though I am doing only 30s to 60s. (30 to 60 seconds… and it hits me like an absolutely death process, to me that does not seem very balanced I think these condensed programs are only for users who have first run a more manageable power level to smoothly integrate the program first) this has just been my experience over and over after trying every possible modulation to my listening schedule. I would just like something that does not hit me like this.

Its much like drinking a vodka shot. You drink it and think you are fine, nothing is happening, then a bit later suddenly you get hit out of nowhere and are dozed for a few hours in a terribly unconscious state. To me it is really like that only when I come out of that recon/overexposure/processing does my clarity and sense of normalcy and consciousness return.

I am very lucky to not have to work in employment or I would simply have to call off because I’d be incapable to work. Just 60 seconds of a subliminal does that to me, makes me dysfunctional for a certain amount of hours or days and can come at unexpected times.

Im very patient but I am just getting a little tired of this continuous process of feeling completely exhausted and then getting hit with the worst states of recon followed by some good results where I forget about the pain of being in the overexposure states then feel a bit better again because of some results, then get hit again with the worst overexposure. Its become a pattern. I want some balance in my life and it is not happening. It is a very inconsistent rollercoaster for me and even the results are quite unpredictable and not giving me much direction.

#183

I’m running Earth/GLM with the new ZPU listening schedule with 60 day cycle.

So far so smooth. 6 listens in so far, I went

1st- 1min
2nd- 3min
3rd- 4min
4th-5min
5th-7 min
6th(today)-9 min

This might be the smoothest cycle I ran so far.

#184

You practice Kriya Yoga right?

That’s a super high voltage practice. IDK if you’re solo or have a master overseeing your progress, but gonna take a guess you doing it solo. I would suggest seek a master, you’re probably got some stuff going on under the hood that Kriya is stirring up and subs probably just add more fuel to that(from the sound of it).

#185

Hmm another option is a custom/name embed

There’s a few modules that might alter things for you such as MDFY: Freedom:

MDFY: Freedom is a module that relaxes the rate of your results and gives your subconscious more room to process. What does this mean? Rather than attempting to get your results as you would normally, there is less pressure on the subconscious to execute – resulting in a longer timeframe for results, but potentially much more profound, life-changing and natural results, as your subconscious mind will not be as constrained by your current situation and will have more time and resources to execute.

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#186

Try lowering your listening time even more, and if needed how often you play the loops. Some here only use 5 seconds or less, in some cases as low as 1 second.