Emperor Fitness or Spartan?

Okay so I am currently running WANTED and my Emperor custom and for WANTED this would be my third cycle. While I have had great results with WANTED and I do like what the physical shifting is doing for me such as increased muscle mass, slowly leaning out, and more endurance I have decided that at this point in time a fitness sub would benefit me more at this point in time.

So I have been overweight pretty much since childhood and while I have lost a lot of weight I am still not at a healthy weight. Plus I do have trauma from being bullied in my younger years about my weight, while they dont bother me now anywhere near the point they used to, they are still there. Also I would get real focused on my diet and workout routines make a lot of progress and then my old habits would come back and I would lose a lot of progress. So while I do understand these are both great subs and would get me the results I desire I would like to know which would serve me better. I finally want to tackle these vices of mine and change for the better.

  1. Which of the two is goin to really destroy and heal the issues internally that I have with my weight?

  2. Which of the two is goin to incorporate better habits for me so that way I can truly change that side of me to the point it remains permanent? This way in the future I can listen to another sub and I wont lose the habits, and could come back to them from time to time if and when needed.

  3. Now while I am overweight I do have a good amount of muscle mass naturally and I do have an easy time putting on muscle and when I have my diet and routine dialed in I can also lose fat at the same time.

  4. My goals are mainly to lose weight mostly fat loss, and to hopefully maintain/gain muscle mass. I mainly would be doing cardio and weightlifting.

  5. I plan on running my Emperor custom for 6 months min and some of the modules include Carpe Diem, Inner Gasoline, Natural Winner, Productivity Unleashed, SPS Muscular and Endocrine system so I do have some productivity, motivation, and some physical health and shifting. Just looking for something to run along side this custom until I hit my goals.

  6. Not looking to become a body builder or anything at this point in time just looking to get healthier and stronger.

  7. While I could stack those two together for the time being I do want to have one or the other with my Emperor custom. In the future when I get more used to the subs I would consider it.

  8. Running Spartan for a few cycles and then doing EF is an option as well if its really recommended lol I did just buy a custom and I am going to school and only working part time.

  9. Also I do only have 3 months of school left and plus my state exam. Would one of these subs help me to maintain focus and help me study more, through discipline that goes beyond fitness?

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@Uber_Elysium

I’d really work on fixing your diet first and foremost. I recommend a carnivore diet as it’s the most effective and satiating way to reach your optimal weight. Once you get to a comfortable weight, you need to start lifting weights. That’ll improve your self worth internally, and externally.

Emperor Fitness Stage 1 through Stage 4 would probably address all of your issues, might be worth looking into Limit Destroyer, and some general healing titles like Chosen From Within and Regeneration.

Stick with that and realize it’s going to take you 3 - 6 - 9 - 12 months to see noticeable improvements depending on how overweight you are. And if you’re considered morbidly obese it might take longer, plus you’ll have the skin stretching issue which can be addressed by taking things slow and eating a nutrient dense diet (carnivore).

Good luck!

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Thank you so much for your input my dude!

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For sure man! Hit me up if you need any further guidance. Would be glad to help!

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All this is pre-ZP

Spartan helps with discipline beyond fitness in my opinion.
In my experience Spartan is much more a performance pusher than it is an enhancer. While it definitely
creates improved performance I also found it pushed me beyond my limits at times in a way that disregarded my limits. I was not always smart in how intense I would be. I would become more interested in challenge and physical movement for it’s own sake, which is awesome if that’s what one is looking for.

I find Emperor Fitness to be more effective for physical changes and well as incorporating fitness
goals into your life. It also stacks very fluidly with Emperor/ and Emperor customs in my experience.

On Emperor Fitness I was a gym alpha, it was just part of my lifestyle and I gradually improved all elements of my fitness.

I’ve also had customs with both which was pretty awesome.

They both help you get to gym and stay disciplined but EF is more like a fire that ones it gets burning stays burning and insanely hot— Spartan is like an explosion out the gate. If someone really need motivation I’d say go Spartan. If there already committed and/or consistent go Emperor Fitness.

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How long did you spend on each stage for EF?

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My personal experience is that Spartan fills your body with loads of energy which results in you wanting to train in the gym much longer then you intended.

It serves a dual purpose in the sense it helps you stand your ground in meetings its like it installs a will of iron smashing down barriers, pushing through hurdles.

Spartan would always be my go to for the gym and getting into fitness coupled with wanted.

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@Azriel @RockyHandsome Okay so since I am in school, work, and studying a lot at home I think I will go with Spartan for now cause I could use that discipline in the beginning for life overall and to get things moving in the fitness aspect of my life. Then when I’m done with school and life chills out I will incorporate EF into my life to make those lifestyle changes permanent.

Which basically means I would run Spartan for about 4 months.

Also what’s your opinion on Spartan and Wanted together?

Spartan will help you put on muscle mass and give you a will of steel. However to me thats like a man putting on a gorilla suite. Whilst on the inside he is still a boy.

Wanted will help you grow and evolve from the inside and overcome any traumas you may have so to answer your question i believe wanted and spartan are a great combo for you.

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Okay that is interesting! I do have an Emperor custom that I just started running so I do want to keep that. I could drop Wanted for now and use Spartan for a few cycles so it can integrate and then bring Wanted back in.

So what’s the difference between Spartan and The Legacy? Cause the LIFECHANGER app does have Spartan legacy. I am also asking cause I am not real familiar with boosters/superchargers.