Has anyone built an ultima from emperor ?
Its something i am cosidering.
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No I have not, but what modules/goals are you planning?
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Identical to my current goals with my existing emperor build however i am curious about it being in ultima.
Back in 2020 members laughed when people talked about making khan an ultima. Later on that year Saint and his team accidently leaked āa khan ultimaā into the wild.
People reported great success with it. He even gave this version away free as he admitted that his engineers had accidently built an ultima rather then what was asked.(bless the team at SC) 
So my question @aaa what you reckon of emperor ultima ? perhaps i will make an experimental ultima.
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Looking for inteligent smart comments based on real world experiences. Members like @aaa @Floridianninja @DarkPhilosopher @Malkuth @James @anthrax @Michel @lovage
Keyboard alphas need not apply.
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I can think of a couple of precedents:
Sage Immortal
Dragon Reborn
Both of these major programs have Ultima versions.
Sage Immortal Ultima is special in another way because it has been described as having the entire script.
So, itās clear that Ultimas are somewhat flexible in the specific scripts they can contain.
At this point, Iām going with the āAltitudeā idea.
Ultima
Standard
Terminus
Terminus2
Ultimas, in this metaphor, work at the surface. Hence the faster effects. Theyāre lighter, somehow. And more pinpointed and focused in their area of impact.
Terminus2 may hit down nearer to the core somewhere. And the others are somewhere in between.
So, I think that an Emperor Ultima would work, but I imagine it would work best for people who have already established a deeper foundation by running the standard Emperor program (which I believe you most certainly have, right @RockyHandsome?).
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Indeed my good friend @Malkuth
I have used emperor since the first version.
Excellent response to my question thanks brother.
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Before someone points a finger at me and says
āhey Mr. Black Adder why are you shaming Saint and SC by highlighting the mistake they made by releasing a mutant strain of khan into the wildā
I am not shaming SC or Saint in any shape or form.
Mistakes can be made perhaps the engineer was overworked or was having a difficult day. Its very difficult to mitigate human errorsā¦ We are not robots, machines or battery powered blow up dolls.
Saint and his merry men are all human. Enough said.
Peace and Humble Wishes
The Black Adder Speaks.
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wish i could get a taste of that Khan ultima ā¦lol
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My Emperor experience is limited, but from what I can remember, I was super focused and determined, not good for work as I was getting pissed off quite easily with colleagues who were slow. Didnāt like that style of dominance personally.
Custom modules, again, limited experience but do you want to enhance the Emperor or soften the harshness? Emperorās Voice is a must.
I see you were playing with elements of Stark, so charm modules like Dragon Tongue, Delightful Smile? A freelancer works hard but plays hard too, so some element of enjoying the moment might help. Itās a difficult balance because you want enough Emperor without it leaning too much in the Khan or Stark domains. Iāll assume youāll keep Khan ultima for the summer.
As Malkuth said, maybe a standard Terminus is a good idea rather than an ultima. Youāre already an Emperor, so a deeper layer may be required, rather than a quick burst of something that you already are.
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Whaaaaat?? Iāve never heard of Khan ultima how comes??
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Nope, heās saying even our mistakes come out awesome. 
I will add that about a few weeks after the first Ultimas were tested (what eventually became Libertine I believe) Saint concluded that although Ultimas were indeed designed to create rapid state shifts which by default would shift back at some point, there was a lingering long-term effect. Enough exposure to Ultima would eventually make it āstickā.
In other words, although Ultimas were less efficient in effecting long-term changes compared to the Q/T/TĀ² scripts, they could still do the job.
Or to (ab)use Malkuthās metaphor, If you dig at the crust long enough, you will eventually reach the mantle.
Hereās me hoping Zero Point Ultima (purely theoretical at this point) wonāt be the equivalent of hydraulic fracturing (yes, I actually know what fracking stands for) on the subconscious. Super-fast, but boy does it leave a mess behind. 
Emperor as an Ultima may have varied results. Itās script was written pre-Ultima and although it was upgraded several times, it was never entirely re-written. Still, Iām interested to see the results. If you do, keep the amount of modules to a minimum, letting Emperor have all the focus.
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Just a quick ?. When you build a custom ultima you still add in the other modules and then just select ultima for itās build or whatever? Like Iād want RICH & Commander so Iād also still add other modules to that?
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Yes. 3 modules is the minimum and the max is 6 for an Ultima
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