Dragon Reborn ZP St 1

Firstly, all of that is true.

Secondly, my preference is to approach the deep mind with an orientation of listening rather than one of strict reprogramming.

Nature makes people like this:

I think my ‘improvements’ would probably look like this:

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For me, magick is about learning to enter into a productive dialogue with Nature, in which–when things go well–I am doing a lot more listening than I am talking.

I agree with what Patrick Gaffiero wrote. I am adding this as an important caveat that sometimes gets overlooked.

Nature generated my brain; the same brain that wants to improve itself and to improve nature.

The whole thing can get a bit:

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I think that as we grow, our capacity to participate intentionally also grows. And I suspect that growth is endless.

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Was really helpful to read this today. Thank you. I’ve definitely been experiencing some of it.

Feels like the energy is being drawn deep within to handle internal building and renovation projects.

Some of the language that you have used to describe things seems to apply to my experience too.

I am still able have motivation and to work on things, but it’s like right now it has to be more of a genuine motivation or it may not work.

And I have to dig a bit deeper if I want to get things done.

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That’s where Mogul comes into play. :slight_smile: Mogul has some healing/unblocking scripting too so it may create nice synergy too. Six months of hard inner and outer work await me! :heart_eyes:

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James the Dragon is back with vengeance :slight_smile: fasten your seat belts.

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DR ZP is hitting me hard. I just broke down crying when thinking about if I do my job good or not

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James, I read this in Saint’s thread, and you were speaking of how DR changed you. Seriously, I talk and have talked about personal responsibility, and I too have quietly drifted away from some big issues (personal or not) on a regular basis.

Something is clicking, so I’m sharing it. When I was growing up, there were no degrees or differences in punishment. It was all or nothing. Pain or not being chosen for punishment. Complete blame or being ignored.

I’ve generalized those same feelings into life, and thus, I avoid regular interaction and involvement in most major life issues and passionate projects.

I’m looking forward to DR so I can be free of this. I’m still wondering: you did all that only on Stage 1? I think I moved on to St2 simply because I judged myself by what others did, and I feared being different—damn, I feared being called out for some invalid mistake (childhood experiences I had). So, I did the sheep thing and put stress on myself.

Thanks for modeling something different.

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@subliminalguy You’re welcome

I forgot I wrote that. Thank you for reminding me. I have had a rough day and this helped

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Yes. Entirely with DR St 1

I went back and forth on moving on to St 3 but had this endless fear of not addressing everything that St 1 could help resolve

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Are you mentally dealing with any of this now?

It’s a selfish question. I too wrestled with it, and I’d like to have some other possibilities for dealing with it. One option @COWolfe gave was using each stage for 3 cycles, and at least for St1 this sounds (feels?) necessary.

A little bit but not as bad as before.

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One thing I’ll say. If you give it three months a stage, each stage deals with what it’s supposed to until it’s DEALT WITH and you don’t have to do it again. At least that’s what it did for me, and I was using it in older tech.

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This just really seems right.

You can get short term healing on any sub quick enough to justify moving on to the next stage… but why rush? Healing isn’t an accomplishment, it’s a lifetime-long journey. You can’t make yourself heal any faster by trying to heal harder - surrender is half the battle.

So why rush through the stages to get to that all-revered stage 4, the pinnacle of what it means to be free and healed and pure again.

That freedom is built on a foundation, and that foundation needs to be as sturdy as possible to prevent a collapse and total rebuild.

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Something I struggled with forever . That and being willing to do the work as much as I didn’t and at times still don’t want to do.

To me it’s even more important now especially as it feels like society continues to lose its minds

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Spot on! Though it didn’t feel like surrender to me. It was a much more active process. DR encouraged me to dig very deeply into why I had mental blocks and problems, why they were BS, and how to dismiss them.

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Why three months? Also, wouldn’t the amount of time required vary based on the extent of the healing needed?

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Three months is an arbitrary number, definitely. With ZP, noone knows how long “long” is right now.

But as for your point about “time varying on the extent of healing needed”… I think that if you aren’t looking for TOTAL and INTENSE healing, you shouldn’t listen to DR. If you’re going to use the most intense healing program on the planet, you might as well be intense and thorough about it.

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I remember when the Q Version of Dragon Reborn was released that it was advised by multiple people not to make any confirmed future plans because Dragon Reborn will change you that much . I feel this advice applies exponentially to Dragon Reborn ZP

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I honestly feel the only change I might make to my stack is add in Love Bomb.
Why not learn to love yourself while you heal yourself?

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It could certainly smooth recon. It’s probably better to let that pain come up though. DR is going to drag you through hell in order to heal you… and if Love Bomb is trying to pull you back up into heaven, you’re only slowing down DR’s work

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Yeah . You’re probably correct