Does Stark ZP has scripting of Mind's Eye in it?

I really like ME, and I really like Stark too but I don’t want to use them both in a stack if I don’t really have to. So I wanted to understand if Stark has something like ME built into it?

The rationale behind asking this question is, from my understanding, Stark is heavily focused towards innovation, flow (with regards to communication, ideation and execution), and charm. For innovation in particular, one needs to be able to have a clear vision of what they want to achieve. To do that you do need to use your “Mind’s Eye”, and that gives me a hint that Stark might have something to address that built into it.

Would be nice to hear from others and if possible, from @SaintSovereign himself. :slight_smile:

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Hello Friend,

Firstly, seeing you liking both Stark and Mind’s Eye warms my heart because they’re both 2 of my favorite subclub subs of all time.

As for your question, the answer is both yes and no.
You see, the standard ZP primer has scripting taken from the main Mind’s Eye script, due to the impressive cognitive enhancement it provides which showed enough evidence of boosting other ZP subs, hence the inclusion of some of ME scripting within the primer, to further facilitate the expression of the user’s ZP stack.

Your rationale isn’t far off the truth, my friend.
Stark has a certain feature, which we in the community dubbed as “Jarvis voice”, which is an effect many of Stark’s users experienced as the inner voice that helps them think out of the box, and guide them.

This effect was not as prominent in the Qv2 version of Stark, however, it is very much present in the ZP version, which is what caused many of the members to request that feature to be included in an updated Emperor.

However, using just some parts of Mind’s Eye from the primer, and using the whole sub is not the same.
This is due to the same reason as to why Deep Sleep and Paragon Sleep differ, as well as the reason why True Sell (module) and True Sell (Core/title) have a big contrast; focus vs whole.

Objectively speaking, it won’t be enough for you if you want the full spectrum of benefits from Mind’s Eye, however, if it’s only the innovation aspect that you’re after, as well as the cognitive boost, then Stark alone will be more than enough, but adding Mind’s eye on top of that would make it very magical, to say the least.

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Thanks for your reply. I’ve read many of your posts and comments and appreciate your responses and your depth of understanding of not just the subs but also some esoteric knowledge and psychology in general. would you mind sharing your understanding and/or experience of ME on it’s own? Also, would you suggest stacking ME if one is using Stark and QLST1 already? I am very keen on adding Libertine instead of ME for the aura/persuasive attraction aspect of it. I know persuasion is not the real aim of Lib but in the world today where the feminine is in many positions of power, an aura of attraction helps with persuasion and gets half the job done even before one starts to present his case, don’t you agree?

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Stark and Mind’s Eye so happen to be 2 of my favorite subs as well, funnily enough.

A minimal amount of Mind’s Eye scripting can be found in all ZP subliminals, but as @Invictus said, it’s nothing like the full sub. Running Mind’s Eye made me realize the frequency with which we (or at least I) rely on visualizing to function on a daily basis. It’s the ultimate booster sub, it enhances every other sub in your stack.

For reference, I ran Stark, Mind’s Eye and MTMX for approximately 3 months. I am currently running Stark, QLST2 and a MTMX/ME custom.

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