I’m using ps and stark together and wanted to know if they make you look physically more attractive
I noticed this but i am not sure wheter i look better just in my mind ( subliminal aim to improve self esteem confidence etc) or do other people see it as well
Would you please enter a support ticket for this question?
From PS desc.
Those two have made me take better care of my looks. Like skin routine, getting more sleep etc but those are all taking action. Physical shifting it’s hard for me to say about PS but Stark made me burn fat better
Those sound good, but for a more comprehensive approach, I’d say it depends on what needs to be improved.
Need to dress better? Wanted.
Need to get in better shape? Emperor Fitness.
Need to improve skin or something else of a “repair” type? Paragon.
Just a couple of suggestions to start.
Just putting something about the skin from Spartan here 
“It does not stop there. Spartan will also, if all that is needed is available, work on improving your basic physical attributes. Your organs, your bones, your skin, your health in general.”
I should also note that while Stark had me definitely thinking about improving my style , I wasn’t focusing on other changes to my looks at the time so had no results from that aspect. I think, as with most subs, there is a degree of specific targeting and intention required to make use of the scripting.
Bruh!! I don’t understand why you don’t want the community to contribute from their experiences!
Edit: @RVconsultant please forgive my tone. You are amazing
Because questions like this are why the support desk exists.
So many people ask questions, RVC asks them to submit a ticket to get an OFFICIAL response to share with the community.
But then the person basically says “nah, I’d rather wait to hear from Saint”
People need to get over the fear of using the official support channels.
Hi,
Yes in my current experience with my Stark custom and Primal Seduction custom, I’ve been seeing more and more evidence that my looks are improving in a way that is different than the effect Wanted has had on me.
Granted, I’ve run Wanted off and on for awhile so this may be a hybrid of results. But Primal Seduction alone has been improving my sense of personal attractiveness and women confirm it for me everywhere I go.
Especially when I’m accompanied by some of the beautiful female friends I’ve been making lately.
I’m not sure how you arrived at this conclusion.
Anyone in the community can give people input.
Support tickets are to ensure inquires get answered by those who would know certain items, such as “does X module help with Y”. People can give input on such topics, but it may be speculation unless someone can find a quote by Saint or Fire.
@Trader got it.
Now @mecharc , this is the second post today I’ve seen that has this tone towards me. I’m wondering if you’ve volunteered to me to be your lightning rod for something. If so, I resign from such a position.
Hey brother, I’m sorry if I hurt you in any way. You are an amazing soul and very much appreciatedl. I was just really pissed off at that certain individual who completely derailed my thread and then started attacking it. I for a second felt like you were taking his side, and that triggered me. Now that the temper is back to normal, I realize that my recent interactions with you came out in the heat of the moment. You are amazing and I love your help. Please don’t let this isolated eeventlet you feel otherwise. I’m sorry once again.
The beauty of a forum is you can think before hitting the Reply button. Even walk away from the computer for a while lest you vent to people who didn’t deserve it.
As for the original question, let me rephrase RVC’s post a little and say “Good question, why don’t you also make a support request and share the answer with us after?”
I would however phrase the support request in a certain way to get the best response. In this case, ask if the Physical Shifting technology is used in Primal Seduction and/or Stark. It’s basically a yes/no question. If yes, then your body will change over time with help from subs. If no, then your body will probably change over time because of your mindset.
I’m not entirely sure about Stark, but I think PS doesn’t have physical shifting. It will however make you feel good about yourself. And since most subs are guided by your views, if you believe that you need to be physically attractive to be successful, the subs will be instructing your mind to become physically attractive. This may lead to better grooming, a more active lifestyle, better diet and increased fat loss. Not necessarily physical shifting, but more active participation and drive. The end result is very similar.
Although Wanted did lead to some balding guys growing more hair during the ZP tests, which is the domain of physical shifting.
It takes a lot of courage to apologize, especially in a place that is public.
No worries. Let’s get back to the true purposes why we are all here.