Long story short emperor has done wonders in regards to my self esteem pertaining to things i can achieve but i feel like its a little lacking in regards to my confidence towards women and even my own self image .
the proposed stack is going to be
Emperor
Wanted
Paragon
Do it
Just my subjective experience as I’ve ran both
Wanted has a reputation for making you more lazy and so it may be counterintuitive for what emperor might be giving you.
When you say confidence with women and self image you may want to start with a healing sub like khan stage 1 as it starts from the inner.
Wanted was primarily a physical shifter for me so if that’s what you want then go for it. But it didn’t solve root problems associated with self esteem.
Primal seduction has helped me a lot with woman, i lost my virginity thanks to primal seduction.
One could argue that Emperor counterbalances the “lazy” (also been described as passive or easy going) aspect of Wanted with more drive.
This is just false, sorry man. Read the sales page.
Edit: @Extraordinaire edited his post to explain that the above was his subjective experience with Wanted, and that he felt Khan better solved the issues he had with self esteem. Thank you bro
Do it. experimentation is encouraged here…
They should call this as of yet as
Primal seduction: The conqueror of virginity 
Emperor and WANTED are incredible together. Ran it for quite awhile and had great personal growth with it.
I can confirm based on my personal experiences they work together.
Do they tend to lean toward sex results? Or do business/money results still come up too?
Both.
They aren’t mutually exclusive.
Go instead with Primal Seduction.
@Prioritas True, guess its really up to subjective experimentation. Perhaps the answer is somewhere in the middle.
I should of clarified in my original reply, I was rushing it:
It’s my subjective past experience with Wanted (one of my favorite subs which I ran for almost a full year). The primary benefit I got was the improvement of my aesthetic overall. And so therefore, I categorize it as a physical shifter, least in my stack. In the topic of confidence with girls and self image, I found better impact with Khan and DR as they focus on root issues in regarding self image.
The more focused we are in our stack the better the result I found.
But again everyone’s different.
Both wanted and emperor will work for sex and for business.
Paragon in my experience was more effective then rebirth.
Thank you for clarifying that bro
Very interesting that Wanted didn’t hit that deep for you, especially after nearly a year.
But I’m glad to hear that Khan and DR did the trick
I would be interested to hear more about what your Khan experience was like, since you say it hit those root issues affecting your confidence and self image with women, which I think is everyone’s main reason for running alpha subs here haha, and speaks to the theme of this topic well
only love for this community! It’s been a hell of a ride!
I wouldn’t say for me that Wanted didn’t work outside of aesthetic benefits. I did feel noticeable “surface” effects, if I can classify it that way. And it continues to be a SubClub top 3 favourite of mine.
If I can use the analogy of a house, running Wanted for me really helped getting women in the door. My immediate social skills, approachability, playfullness, aesthetic etc was all boosted by Wanted. Most noticeably was the aesthetic however. It is bar none my favourite trait of Wanted.
The challenges I ran into was what was happening on the inside. Despite “looking successful” I was dealing with feelings of inadequacy, insecurity, and other negative feelings which translated a lot to neediness, a dependancy on validation, spite, hypersensitivity and fear of rejection. Whilst to my immediate social circle; it may have seemed like I was getting it in with all kinds of women, in reality I would was dealing with a host of confidence issues, and not nearly getting enough play as I would like. A lot of missed opportunities.
And so that led me to learning that there are deeper layers I needed to resolve. Past traumas, limiting beliefs and mental blocks I needed to clear.
Dragon Reborn has been the bread and butter for that. It specifically tackled and burned away those liming beliefs and built the “scales” that inevitably would help subs like Wanted blossom properly and adequately give me the results I was looking for. I’m still developing this as I am currently mid way through stage 3. It has been nothing short of profound for me. In the meantime, I’ve put Wanted and Khan on pause while I sort this out for me.
And so when I hear folks on here asking for advise on confidence and self image, I remember my journey in tackling this issue and how it started from the inside out. I could guess most, if not all of us are exposed to some form of trauma, negative societal conditioning that prevent us from expressing our best selves. Healing subs like Dragon Reborn, Khan Stage 1, among others was the pragmatic approach for my case to make the most of any sub I run after.
Truly fantastic.
Thank you for sharing all that man.
Appreciate you