Cancelled experiment gone wrong
Three things I’d like to point out, and so there’s no misunderstanding - I’m talking to everyone in general (as usual), not just @SoulFire:
First, if you’re running 2 full loops, you could just run microloops and get what you’re trying to achieve without the very likely degrading that doing this would cause.
Remember, these titles are very carefully engineered to optimize all aspects. Messing with the titles in any way such as this is… not going to get you very far.
Furthermore, there are no issues with the speed of the title - instead, the issue is people attempting to min-max something that they don’t quite understand, and in the process just making things worse. Getting a different response and thinking that just because you get a response that the response is necessarily good… this is faulty thinking.
Getting a different response and some tingles is easy. Achieving real growth is not.
Second…
@Adi doesn’t have an issue with this - he’s actively practicing Yogic methods, pushing energy upwards (as per Yogic methods) while having a head block (which is common in Westerners and fixed by proper methods and proper control by a master). Nothing to do with our titles.
Third.
This is tested on YT and random audio recordings, not our titles. Massive difference. And taking our titles and testing them in such a manner wouldn’t give anything concrete either.
Finally, I’ll say this.
At Subliminal Club we encourage experimentation. And I know some people would like to say - “how can you encourage experimentation when we can’t even do stuff like this?!” - and the answer is simple.
Because you are experimenting with things that don’t matter or actively degrade performance. The point of experimentation is achieving greater performance - not doing basic file manipulation that YT/Redditors like to do in their attempts to squeeze out a tiny bit of results.
You want to experiment? Try experimenting with supplementation and seeing how that affects the reconciliation process. Try seeing how optimizing sleep affects your processing. See whether more often microloops but less versus a stronger single listen with a long rest period works better for you, etc.
And here is an example of interesting information that @SaintSovereign and I can take and discuss as data:
All these could be potentially valuable data that we could analyze and others could benefit from. That is the data that we actively look for and is one of the biggest pillars of Subliminal Club, and why we are successful - community giving us valuable data that we are mercilessly following with no emotional attachment to old, outdated data. If it works better - it works better and thus shall be used to its maximum potential.
True but also I began to realise lately that because of being on the spiritual path I will naturally feel inclined to move in a direction that will bring me closer to my destiny. Now if I start running any programs that are actually not in alignment with that direction, I will withhold those expressions from acting out in my world, creating stagnation and building up pressures and tensions. So instead of seeing results and progress I begin to literally stagnate while the head pressure starts building. This is an issue I have observed and need to be dealt with. Hence why I have been trying to document and figure it out as none will resolve it for me, with that a lot of speculation came on my part which may have caused a misunderstanding within the community.
So in the beginning of running something new a small burst of results and flow will always come, but almost immediately after that, for some programs, I begin to block my own results as I am already going in a completely different direction in my life and am unwilling on spending time on it. Some minor results will seep through but for the most part as I continue listening it will start to build pressure and get blocked in my mind.
This is very much a conscious doing that I became aware of. It simply increases the pressure in my head and blocks my mental flow, my energy levels are fine but my mental flow is simply not there after awhile as the blockage grows.
I really believe we have to find alignment with our subliminal programming and not to fill our minds with things we think we may need but are actually not meant for us. Some programs and especially spiritual programs I have super good flow with. Once I add something that is actually not good or meant for me, a sort of sideshow distraction from my spiritual path, everything will slowly start to get blocked. Putting even one such program in my stack and I think because the programs have become so profound, it usually leads to diminishing returns so will have to be more careful with my selection and listening pattern to smoothen the entire process.
So a lot of factors are involved in this which I am looking at to resolve the underlying issue and not fall back into false impressions and illusions of what it might be.
I hope the updated revelation program can take some of these things into consideration such as a particular module and script that reveals to us the true nature of our spiritual blockages and allows the unfolding to happen to unblock them, naturally as if by a divine design. Connecting to life itself, not necessarily finding teachers, books or information out there but connecting directly to our inner knowing and insight to reveal to us the true nature of situations. Through direct revelation instead of some intermediary like a book, mentor or teacher.
The real self is hidden somewhere within the subconscious mind. If revelation of spirit can be a safe compass that will guide us through the maze and finding the real self it would be the ultimate spiritual program. People have truly expressed extraordinary intelligence and insight when they have that higher consciousness with them. This is what I am also striving towards to find within myself. Beyond all the identities and personalities that inhabit my subconscious mind. A lot has to be dissolved for the real self or the soul as it is called in certain spiritual traditions to become known, visible and eventually unite with the observer so true intelligence can sprout!
@Fire I am more aware lately that while I love to journal about my process and reconciliation when it comes, and while I already curb my real thought and expression a lot to fit within a community, that some things may lead to wrong understanding and conditioning that may not be fully true and accurate. Especially since @SaintSovereign expressed that he is a little jaded of all this speculation about the zero point so technology I am being more aware of how approach this situation as I don’t want to contribute to any cause and effect chains of threads and what have you like this that actually take time away from development.
I just wish people could use more common sense like I am trying to do and apply it in their lives so that most confusions can be stopped where it begins.
Simple issues like this should actually be seen for what they are and resolved quickly I don’t understand myself how this has been such a big struggle and confusion for such a long time. But I am feeling very good that I am moving in the right direction with it now!
I took some time out lately to really observe this situation and some interesting understandings have come to me hence why it is much clearer now while before I could not see beyond surface level illusions of the situation. My perception was off.
With mental block I also mean for example not being able to have mental inspiration, willingness to take action, feeling drowned in mental heaviness. Whatever the symptoms are I have to be careful with mental exposure to subliminal programs because if it does not flow properly it actually affects this blockage. So this has nothing to with the technology necessarily or directly but how it impacts me sometimes is still a real occurrence.
If this happens from 1m exposure sessions and starts to build a pressure over time I am just going through a reconciliation where I am trying to understand what is happening. It seems to indicate that I somehow blocking or stonewalling the program. That I am not allowing the scripts to act out in my world and expose more and more without seeing much results, worsening the condition. It is a two way street according to me, part is spiritual and energetic to other is mental with a physical impact. Whatever I do in my mind will have an impact upon an energy blockage surrounding the head and also will create some physical and quasi-physical sensations in those same areas, this is only normal. Nowhere have I ever tried to say this is because of zero point directly or that zero point is no good. I am speaking about my inner experience and subjective life and how it is responding to certain sessions with the audio tracks. This is true for me beyond any assumptions and speculations about how the technology may work. Just wanted to clear that up. I actually see Zero point as a wonder, and I think it is totally something innovative, I have always felt attracted towards profound tools for human development and I think this technology will grow in many ways in the next decade to create something exceptionally refined for reprogramming the human mind but I also understand that everything has to go through adjustments, by the feedback of the people who are using the tools these adjustments and corrections can happen as a road towards perfecting a tool. Probably we very much both agree on that!
Ps. I always knew the problem I had was beyond the tools and very individual to me but even this can contribute to research and development in my opinion as I am experiencing something very different than most! There is much to learn and understand from an abstract situation like this
This indicates a faulty spiritual method, not blocking/stonewalling. That is the very issue - such feedback has very little value because it is ultimately faulty and not based off of the subliminal usage.
It would be like attempting to learn how to ski by learning martial arts. Both are bodily movements, sure. Both involve your whole body, sure.
But will you know how to ski after doing MMA for 10 years? No.
This is also why things like the following:
… aren’t even considered. Why? Because one, there are similar things which would have been experienced if the experience was/is untainted. And two, because we cannot consider such feedback because again, the data is marred at the very source.
People come to us all the time claiming to be experts in different areas wanting to help “revolutionize” Zero Point, but are consistently doing two things:
1 - showing basic, beginner errors that betray the full level of experience, knowledge and expertise.
2 - come with tainted data, because X (insert any crazy idea, usually it being related to blasting energy into one specific point then marveling at the tingles).
You want your ideas to be considered? Come with untainted data. Don’t present yourself as an expert if you are not - because we will know. And if we don’t, the ones in our circles who we have carefully, over the years vetted, will. And ultimately, appeals to higher knowledge/authority/divine will on the subject mean little to us, because we will test it and if it doesn’t work, it will be rejected all the same.
When speaking on Revelation of Spirit, my suggestion was about including a script that will assist in germination, sprouting and blossoming our inner intelligence so that we can access the realms beyond the physical and come in deeper touch with our true self, real self that exists beyond the mind. Have true perception of the nature of reality without needing books or second hand knowledge. Like what has been referred to as unified field theory or the akashic library, or other sources of inspiration and insight that are coming from direct inner revelation.
Also coming into deeper touch with our real and true self beyond who we think we are. Perhaps Revelation of Spirit already has those features or similar ones, that I do not know.
I have always been a serious seeker and explorer of life, always willing to learn and understand more about life, seeing life as a tremendous happening that has always fascinated me. @Fire you are not wrong on many things you write, I feel you have a deep sense of wisdom and acknowledge many of the ideas you present to me.
I do not know why I come across as if I am being an expert, this is far from my intention, it may be a personality quirk that I have developed and will try and see how it can be transformed and am taking your suggestions into account to see how I can give untainted contributions in the future.
You continue to include assumptions about the titles, namely this idea of “compressed information” as the source of your issues with the titles, rather than stating the issue and allowing us to slowly find solutions. At least for me, this is the issue.
We are no longer allowing people to do this – to state something as fact, when the only fact is that the idea is unproven.
Sorry about that I understand it is causing misunderstandings and will do my best to take that into account in the future to the best of my ability.
It comes from trying to fill in the holes as to what is happening with me when very little actual information about the technology is publicised, so speculation naturally came in to fill that hole.