Custom Vs Ultima Cores

Hey Everyone,

I was hoping to get some proper guidance before I plunge into my next purchase.

I bought Emperor last Jan/Feb and have been running it every night, and during the day since. I’ve seen some good changes in my life but I am ready to move on.

I’m honestly really confused on the difference between Customs, and Ultimas. I read the email they sent out about the ultimas talking about buying 3-6 modules.

Whats more powerful-getting a custom or doing the ultimas?

Many users will come and say Ultima is the definite way to go. In theory it is the more powerful and recent tech. However both q customs and ultimas have their own strengths. If you’re looking for a completely new program I would personally recommend a q custom over Ultima.

But it really depends on what you are looking to do. So to that end - what are your goals for your next purchase? What results have you seen and what results are you looking for next?

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Ultima is more geared toward fast acting “state shifting” state. Wanna feel more manly? run Godlike masculinity. Wanna work more? Run the executive or Beyond Limitless. Want to feel better? Run Sanguine.

So, recently it was discovered that Ultima could do some changes more permanently, but it works differently. But at the beginning, ultima is meant to change your inner state (or outer in the case of libertine), this is why it is not recommanded to plug in some cores in ultima. You can only use 1 Ultima Core per custom ultima.

I would recommand you use a Q custom since it is more meant for longer term growth. :wink: It’s basically the same as you ran, but you have the sub name embedded, which makes the sub stronger, and you add the modules you want in it!! Which is pretty cool, you can mix up to 3 cores.

Remember, the more focused is your sub, the more the results will be fast (usually, it also depends if you have other reconciliation problems it’s not the same thing).

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It is recommended you only use one but you certainly can add 2 in a custom ultima. I had asked saint about that regarding BLU and Executive. He said i could add both and it should work.

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Yeah I guess because they work toward the same goal!

This Reply is meant for everyone who was gracious in providing feedback.

Thanks for the explanation. I’m still a bit confused.

Heres what I am trying to accomplish, and get mastered in my life.

Would appreciate more feedback as I dial in this important decision:

Wealth, Health, Relationships, and career.

I’ve definitely been able to create more abundance in my life this year after running Emperor, but I am also realizing I still have some limiting beliefs of unworthiness, and self sabotage that I feel are keeping the flood gates closed in all of these areas.

I’ve done a shit load of inner work in terms of identifying (to the best of my ability) what the root cause of these scenarios are, and on a conscious level I have healed a lot of them but I am wanting to make sure I do a deep clean on anything I am missing on a sub level. I am ready to get this handled, and over with now.

I think its important I get to the roots of anything holding me back from ultimate success in the above areas- so this is a long winded way of saying I think a healing stack is the way to go.

The email says I should focus on one area, and if I want to have a core I can have one but they prefer us to not have one at all when running ultimas?

I went through all of the healing ultimas, and picked out this stack as after reading all of them. These are the most important to me to get handled now.

What I am confused on is this an Ultima Stack, or a Q custom? I don’t know where the ‘Q Customs’ is? Really confused.

Thank you for your help!

Ares

New Beginnings

Rebirth

Unlimiter-

Attachment Destroyer

Discordia Deliverance

Dragon Reborn Core(s)- (Do I need all four?)

Energetic Development XI

Iron Frame

If your focus is, at this stage, purely on healing then I don’t believe a custom is in your best interest. You’d probably be better off running the regular Dragon Reborn product while continuing to run Emperor. You’re used to one title, it’s serving you well, and you’re looking for healing anything that may not be in your conscious awareness.

You could build several customs with the Dragon Reborn Cores which would probably be the best choice for healing. But you’d have to make at least 2 (putting all 4 stages into one custom is not recommended for a bunch of reasons) + figure out all the healing modules you want to have with them. A pure healing name embedded custom just seems like overkill based on your description when you could get more bang for your buck by continuing to run Emperor and going through each stage of the regular Dragon Reborn product.

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Yep, I’ve also had the “dragon reborn” flash while reading you. You might be very interested in dragon rebord, it will clean you up :wink:

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Okay thanks for all the feedback everyone.

So you guys don’t think itll be more powerful to have my name embedded into the Dragon Reborn? Just too much?

Secondly, what order do you think is best?

Emperor x1
Dragon 1 X1
Dragon 2 X1
Dragon 3 X1
Dragon 4 X1

Repeat?

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Nooo, usually, it’s stage one for a month, stage two for another, stage 3 for another and you finish with stage 4!

You can continue running 1 or two loops of emperor every day with it since you already ran it for a year. Dragon reborn will give you the healing you need, while emperor will continue to developp you in that direction.

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Okay right on. So for clarification:

Emporer 1X
Red Dragon 1x (For one month)

Then swap out Red Dragon 2 on second months etc.

Repeat in a loop?

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Yes exactly. Also “one month” isn’t a hard and fast rule. Some people go for 200 hours total listening, some people going by a certain number of weeks. Everyone is different so generally it’s up to you and however long you feel you want to do each stage

Dragon Rebord?

Hahahaha oups, let me edit that!

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This here is an excellent advice. By default, we tend to day 30 days minimum, but ultimately it’s your call, you could do 2 months each stages.

If you want to keep it simple, just run it a certain number of days for each stages (30-45-60…). So, stage one for the first 30 days, then switch it out for stage two for another 30 day, switch it out for st3 for another 30 days and lastly jump on St4, it’s really up to you. Also, stage 4 combines techniques from stage 1-2-3, this is why it’s the last stage!

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Thank you! I am going to grab this!

Have you personally used this sub?

Nah, I have a custom for Khan right now.

But staged subs are working alike (I ran Khan in 2019 :wink:). Dragon reborn just got out so nobody has ran the full set yet! But they are seeing good healing!

I am currently a few weeks into the first stage of this program and have noticed moderate healing both psychologically and physically. I am running it with several other titles that are both dense and fairly new to me so my progress is expectedly slow (yet remarkably fast!).

I’ve been running Dragon Reborn all day, and night the past 3 days. Last night was quite special. (While the sub was running during my sleep) I had a dream a white light was cleansing me. I was asking it what certain peoples rolls were that had hurt me- I can’t remember any of the answers I just remember that it was telling me it was healing me. The Sub is definitely working. I also have noticed that I feel lighter.