Couple of questions to make things clear

Questions and Comments
#1

hi , im new here matter of fact i just made my account

been reading the manuel the pdf with the FAQ and it explained a lot

however things are not so clear to me:

1 - since im new i assume i have to start with Q-Strength level, ?
i wanna ask is the Strength levels a way of listening? so every sub you can either go with Q-strength or terminus or terminus squared ,

so theres no such thing as a sub for intermediate levels or experienced pals, its how often you listen to the sub that determines the strength level i assume

2- im between getting limit destroyer ultima and Beyond Limitless Ultima, i tried to use the search function for keywords but got no luck, can any explain the difference between them? i tried to compare but they seem very close from the description

3- i cant listen to subs while im awake or lets say ill probably can run them while im working out only, but other than that im busy producing music or im busy djing or im reading or working or anything, is it possible to mainly depend on the subs when sleeping only and overnight? will that do provide results as same as if im awake?

so ill be mostly running the subs for a couple of loops while im asleep with a pair of headphones, is it okay to do that? since i dont have time running them alone during the day

(also is it okay to use ultima while asleep? same question as above i guess but im leaning 70% towards the limit destroyer ultima) im a heavy sleeper so i cant be disturbed while im asleep even if i hear some music

-the Manuel didnt provide much info about running the subs when sleeping would deeply appreciate some help and answers since im new here :smiley:-

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#2

No such thing as “Have to” here. Just recommendations and the urge to experiment. Experimentation is what led to the recommendations and it should never stop.

I think of strength in terms of how many subliminal voices or how layered the voices are. So Q will be easier for a beginner to take on board.

Since you’re new to SubClub, the recommendation is to not rely on past experience with other sub producers. If you’re going to follow any recommendations here, start as a beginner

Limit Destroyer is a “healing” sub where Beyond Limitless is more of a learning and productivity sub.

Very possible. This is largely what I do. Be prepared for very interesting dreams to pop up a the SubC mind will be actively processing the subliminal content while you are sleeping.

You can pretty much run any subs while sleeping. Just be aware that certain ones’ content might not make for the best sleep. This is where personal experimentation comes in.

@SaintSovereign journaled before about multiple loops of Beyond Limitless Ultima where melatonin was needed to help sleep through 5-6 loops but the resulting effects were crazy phenomenal

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#3

wow now im excited to get my limit destroyer sub since i can play them while im asleep that was my most concern
still didnt get how the strength level works?

is limit destroyer Q-strength or is it what level?

is it enough to play the subs for 6- 7 hours while asleep? will that do for a day of listening?

so lets say ill listen to the sub just when im asleep, will that do all the work? lets say i sleep 5-7 hours a night

#4

That’ll do for 6-7 days of listening. These are different than most subs and you can kind of overdose on them. More is not better. Start with one loop a day, and be sure to take two days a week off.

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#5

Limit Destroyer comes in both Q and Ultima build methods. Ultima isn’t so much as “strength” level like Q is. All subs in the catalog are Q at a minimum, except Ultimas, which as Ultima.

I forgot to answer to the Terminus and Terminus squared question. Those only come into play when making custom sub builds (more $ since they are made just for you).

Definitely recommend not doing anything with Terminus or Terminus Squared until you’ve used Q or Ultiima for a while.

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#6

i read that you play subs for 5 days take 2 days off so

ill be playing them asleep, what do you mean by overdose? 6-7 hours a night is too much ?

#7

so thats everything i need to know i guess :D?

ill buy mine off today and ill play it once i go to bed

a fewer more concerns popped up hahahh

1- my headphones are bose qc35 ii (bose are known to have eqs on their headphones such as any audio company in the word -(except studio headphones and stuff)- i think they have slight eq on them with the bass gain

and i read that EQing might really affect the sub, is it a big deal or no?

#8

so ultima is built to be played only once a day? i mean when im asleep im just gonna let it play untill i wake up then ill pause it

is it that overdosing on subs?

#9

Don’t EQ. You want it all flat.

#10

Overdosing can cause any number of unpleasant effects, exhaustion, extreme brain fog. You’ll know it when you feel it. I would suggest starting with one loop a day. With W version 2 that’s the ideal amount for many people here which gives them the fastest progress. You can try two later if you want to.

#11

but im gonna play the sub when im asleep not when im awake

wouldnt that cause less symptoms of overdosing on them? ill be sleeping the whole time it plays 6 times or i dont know how long the sub is

#12

i wont eq

what im saying is that bose is already EQ’ed thats how they sound they have small adjustments it comnes from the factory already eq’ed in a certain way

not too much, should i worry about it?

#13

would need the see the spectral response

#14

That doesn’t make a difference for me. I’ve done both.

#16

https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/bose-quietcomfort-35-2-bluetooth-nc-off.php#gsc.tab=0

thats what i could find

since theres no such thing as flat headphones will that spectral respose gonna be a problem ?

#17

i also own this headset

sennheiser 4.40 which do you think is the best for subs?

#18

If you search “sennheiser” in forum posts, you’ll see a ton of people using different models.

#19

O.k., there’s a difference between masked and Ultrasonic. ultrasonic is pretty loud, therefore it’s recommended that you DON’T use headphones. Listen to them on GOOD QUALITY speakers. Closely reread the recommendation for measuring the volume level for ultrasonic. I believe it’s in the manual. It’s dangerous if you overdo it with the volume.

Masked and Ultima should be used with headphones and not a speaker.

#20

thanks man