Maybe it’s recon talking but still have issues understanding how listening too one loop of each of the two subs I am running for 15 minutes every other day will produce the results I am looking for
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How many “15 mins loops” did it take you to finish coding courses, with an above-average speed?
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How could you understand it? You don’t know what’s in the scripts. Neither do I, so I don’t actually understand it, either. What we both can do is look at the results from the subs following the schedule. For me, they are very clear. I do not need to understand the details of how to evaluate the “does it work”. For comparison: Do you understand how your TV works? I’m guessing not, and yet you can figure out that it works. Same thing, really.
And what @Invictus said. I also vaguely remember you posting about finishing coding courses. There’s the results.
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I get it. I did say right away that I could easily be experiencing recon. Learning coding is different. It’s a hands-on skill that is easy to track the progress of as opposed to the subs which as @jay_s stated we don’t know what’s in the scripting. I will probably be advised to reduce the number of loops per week or the length of the loops from 15 minutes to three or five to start out with. I struggle even more with understanding that logic
You know, something just came to mind. The need to understand may be a character trait you have (don’t know you, and can’t tell). I do know a few people who have it, and what they all have in common is a need to understand things, and they have an extremely hard time being happy until they do.
Sometimes they’ll try to figure out why people behaved a certain way, and can’t make heads or tails of it, but keep digging away, and we’ll have a conversation along the lines of me saying “look, it doesn’t make any sense. Just stop trying to understand it because you won’t. Because the way they behaved is completely illogical.” They really have a hard time with this kind of thing - something they cannot understand, and an even harder time letting go. (For reference: This is not me saying the subs are illogical, that was just an example. ) If you have this trait you may be in a similar situation here. You can’t understand the subs because you don’t know the scripting, and it may be damn hard to just let that go. Nothing to do with intelligence, either. The friends I have in mind are intelligent. The thing for them is the need to understand. Maybe that would be an angle to tackle it.
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You’ll get used to it. These subs, well they’re operating in a way that’s completely different to what 90% of most subliminal products are based on. You’re probably trying to understand how it works through the filter of existing sub tech that’s been around for years that everyone has copied in some form.
Guaranteed if you go above those recommendations you’re gonna have a bad time.
I think the only way to work through this is to do a cycle adhering to the recommendation and track your results. If it’s not what you want or something seems off 99% of the time it’s best to reduce exposure, not increase it.
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I agree that you’re probably in recon, but here’s my unsolicited two cents…
You don’t need to understand. All you need to do is press the “I believe” button, @James . Over and over and over. Then forget about the subs and go about doing stuff you want to do, and have to do, in order to change your life to be, look, and feel how you want.
You don’t need to understand the How. Ask yourself how many things you use in your daily life without knowing the How…you just expect them to work, because you believe they will work, and they prove you right…or not.
Pull from the results you’ve already gotten from running subs by reflecting on where you are now versus then, and rereading your journals…re-Mind yourself, you’re the one creating the change and producing the results. Not the subs. They’re the tools, not the craftsman.
You got this, man.
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That’s recon talking through you and your subconscious trying to sabotage what it perceives as a threat. You know very well that the 15 minute loops are effective. Hell! Even 5 minute loops work for people. You know that really well. 
Right now your subconscious is trying to get you to overexpose yourself so you can fall off track and possibly stonewall yourself or even quit.
The first time I ran HoM ZP, 15 minutes knocked me out almost immediately and made me very sleepy. Four rounds of EOG1 pretty much changed my money mindset more than anything I had done so far. Two rounds of Emperor Black helped me get my procrastination under control. Which no other tool managed to do so far. I’m not even going to get into the ridiculous results I got from just one and half round of LBFH.
Just like you, I don’t know what’s inside the subs. I don’t know how they’re scripted. I do know that 15 minutes get me more results than listening the whole night (like we used to do before).
You know that too. Right now, you’re just looking for ways to rationalize sabotaging yourself. Don’t fall into that trap. 15 minutes every other day is plenty. With ZP, less is more. You know that.
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They won’t. You will.
3-30 min of subs work the same way that 3-30 min of affirmations, visualization, or goals reading work.
They’re nudges for your RAS. They orient your mind.
Which makes you notice useful things/opportunities, and evoke navigational ideas.
Your choices and actions produce the results.
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@Invictus’ point is that your 15 minute loops were what helped you to finish the coding course so smoothly and easily.
You then correctly pointed out that:
So, the solution, from that, is obvious:
Where possible, do your best to change your other goals as well into ‘hands-on skills that are easy to track the progress of’.
In addition to making your goals more achievable, this will also give you an indirect way to observe the effectiveness of your subliminal listening pattern.
You can’t see the wind, but you can know its movement by watching the grass.
You can’t see the subliminals, but you can know their movement by watching your results and your progress towards your goals.
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I was thinking the same, then i realized i always have headaches the day after I listen 15 mins, i realized i need to drop it to 3-5 minutes which sounded insane to me cause i didn’t want to waste my time for months maybe listening 3-5 minutes just to not see any results cause to me even 15 minutes every other day was a stretch.
I was wrong, things got a lot better when i dropped it to 3-5 mins. Results started to show up and they feel so natural that i can see how people could think it’s just coincidences.
I have a clear indication for recon, headaches, so i work around that like i try to increase it to 7 minutes, see if i have headaches, if i don’t i go with that. You will see a lot better results if you are aware what could be recon for you, drop the listening time accordingly and see for at least a month, If you have even slightest hint of results, don’t change it unless you are absolutely sure it’s not coming from a place of need/fear. Also definitely try with 3 minutes at first.
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@Fire is probably fuming how you dare to say his precious subs work as well as these damn affirmations
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How many loops do you want to use? 2? 3? 10?
You’re not a newbie here. Do what you want and see how it goes, if it works for you all the better and if it doesn’t (which I suspect), at least you have your curiosity satiated, and your neuroticism can be scaled down.
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@James the best thing is to be open minded. Stop looking for proof from others and create that proof yourself. IMO, stop thinking logically.
See it as if you were the only person who had subs and no-one else got them so you’d have to have the open mind and self belief in the fact that they work just for you (even at 15 minutes or less).
The reason @Invictus has a ‘high flow’ is because of his self belief in himself and his ability in not doubting the subs. They clearly work, he has created massive results with ZP subs and not just him but others too.
I’m not saying don’t make this post, because it’s insightful, however in my opinion you’re creating resistance for yourself by constantly asking this same question as it is possibly becoming a limiting belief/pattern for you. I’m aware of why you do this, but again you don’t need anyone else’s proof, just to create your own.
Follow @Simon ‘s advice. IMO he’s correct.
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It is pretty wild how quickly it can work.
And I understand the feeling of almost wanting something to be more difficult.
There’s a catharsis to difficulty.
But here’s a mantra:
Allow It To Be Easy
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@James, it’s a package of information in a similar fashion you can download a Windows Update in a few minutes too yet it can significantly change the software.
Your subconscious will be rearranged and directed toward the objectives of the program you are instilling. The subconscious it steers our lives, directs our efforts, our desires, and our motivations, it programs the cells in our body–this is the steering wheel of your life.
You may want to ask what motivated you in the first place to take a programming course (from what I read) instead of spending time on less constructive activities, what caused your Will and your thoughts, and desires to head that direction and become focused upon it with a relentless desire to understand the knowledge and succeed at the course without being distracted.
Your whole organism is controlled by the subconscious.
There is a War on our Consciousness right now–this war is subconscious because 95% of the mind is not being used Consciously unless we evolve and start to use more. It’s just paradigms, beliefs, and programs that steer us to create and employ our efforts toward a desired end.
Having this knowledge can set you apart from the masses which are programmed from birth and slowly but gradually shaped to become a slave to a system that benefits none but the few elitist shadow figures.
I’m concerned about Humanity, but I See a mighty and glorious future if we awaken to our innate possibilities and utilize them. This can be done only through Soul growth so that we may become more conscious of what’s hidden within the unconscious realms of our Minds, this is the prison–the mental prison, we are all held captive in.
May these words serve all to a constructive and liberating purpose.
Kind of went on a ramble here but you can fundamentally rearrange a whole portion of your subconscious baggage by ingesting a package of information that has a quantity that majorly exceeds are normal capacity for information–in only a few minutes that is.
Hence the tiredness we have all faced, or dissonance, disconnection, confusion, because it can literally disrupt your mind lik that.
With Power comes responsibility, use it wisely!
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Run Quantum Limitless and see the code in the subliminal audios.
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