Can We Get An Official Answer On ZP vs Ultima?

can we get an official response on if normal ZP products can be used the same way ultima products could?

im talking about NORMAL zp products NOT zpt and zpt2 that are only available for customs.

I’m currently testing this for myself but would like to know the official stance.

If I’m understanding your question right, you’re asking if ZP titles can be used in a similar manner to Ultima products, like playing it right before an event (Diamond, True Social, etc) or simply to enhance your stack?

If so, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Saint confirm this (I thought to you…) in the past.

@Invictus knows more about this than i do.

I respect the fact that you asked for an official answer and if you’re only looking for a response from one of the two, then iight.

If you’re asking if ZP titles can be used as boosters like Ultimas were then yes. ZPs make good boosters and long-term programs in my experience and that’s been tested by me more than once.

What ZP subliminal would you recommend for running as a booster rather than a main title?

@Monarch tagging you here too.

Yes. But the title you are using as the Ultima/Booster should be one of the titles in your 3 title stack.

For example, if you have a stack that consists of PS + Libertine + DIAMOND, then you can run PS + Libertine every other day and use DIAMOND as the Ultima/Booster a couple of hours before you do the deed.

Or you run a stack like PS + WANTED + Libertine and you run PS + WANTED every other day and you run Libertine before you hit the nightclub once in a week.

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For example, if you have a stack that consists of PS + Libertine + DIAMOND, then you can run PS + Libertine every other day and use DIAMOND as the Ultima/Booster a couple of hours before you do the deed.

@Lion What is the best strategy then for getting more results than what you want from 3 titles?

I feel like I am missing growth.

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I understand you might be feeling a bit restricted with these instructions but we have to remember that ZP subliminals are very powerful and they will unfold in you over time.

Also, I have yet to hear any professional subliminal maker allow stacking of 2 or 3 titles in your stack. I have seen one sub maker allow stacking maximum of 2 titles but even there are many exceptions to the stack.

Am mentioning this to help you gain perspective. There is growth but sometimes it is hard to see it.

Another option is to reduce the size of your stack so that you can notice results faster. I have found a 2 title stack to work very well for me. But you can imagine that a 1 title stack is even better since you only need to process 1 title and hence it will work faster.

See if you can experiment with 1 title only and see how fast your growth is for 1 month. After which you can add another title to it and then you have a 2 title stack for the next month. And so on.

Sometimes in our excitement to get it all fast, we are not considering processing time and the time it takes for the subliminals to deeply embed in us.

Also note rest days. And if you feel reconciliation, take extra rest days. All this will help

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Appreciate your feedback and response :heart:

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Happy to help you out, @Monarch. Hope you get great results.

When it comes to ZP I’d use a title I already either did a full cycle with so there’s already some familiarity. For example, at this point I only need to do either a single 5 or 15 minute loop of Stark or emperor in order to get benefits over a few days from those subs.

Also, unless the the sub is ascension chamber I’d wouldn’t go past the 3 title limit; so for instance if you’re running a stack like love bomb and libertine for the sake of attracting women but also want to develop your masculinity while you do so and have already run GLM before. You could do a single loop of GLM once or twice a week. How often you can run a booster depends on your personal subliminal sensitivity and how fast you may hit recon depending on how the programs interact with one another as your mind is processing them.