Can Appollon and Anvil of Hephaestus be ran together?

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#1

Putting together a custom with big focus on physical shift.

So Appollon sounds great, but Anvil of Hephaestus makes me scratch my head. On one hand, “designed solely for pure and absolute mass and muscle” sounds great. But aesthetics are important to me as much as muscle mass.

I guess what I’m trying to ask here is, will AoH give me that buff teddy bear look? Because I AM NOT going for that. Example of what I DO NOT want to look like:

And is it worth running them together?

#2

I’m 99% sure it’ll be fine man, in my experience all these subs work with your actual desires/goals.

You can consciously guide them torwards your ideal physique as well.

#3

Conscious guidance matters with these subs so they aren’t just forcing you into a physical trajectory you don’t want

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#4

got it

So are both these modules(Appollon+AoH) worth running together?

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#5

Yes absolutely. They would work the best in a custom specifically focused on shifting. Probably with legacy of Spartan and new shifting experience cores.

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#6

Do you have a pic of someone you would prefer to look like?

#7

Not really. I mean I like my own body, I just want to push the needle without jumping on steroids(no pun intended).

My only concern with AoH is I don’t want to end up looking like one of these guys lol:

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I only bring this up because the description of AoH and the picture they used. But the more I read in the forums, the theme I get out of the physical shifting subs is they will not do something to you that you find unattractive?

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#8

subclub shifting subs work in a way where your body will shift into a version that you actively know you want / imagine often having / imagine generally / work towards whatever that means

or all of those above
Thats why even more important than knowing what you Dont want, is knowing what you DO want.

You could find few pictures on the internet. I like to set them as my phone background on my screen so I look at them every day without even noticing too much.

I would call that conscious guidance of the shifting subs.

Im assuming this is also why lion asked you this.

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#9

I remember when I was gonna run helen of troy shifting sub at first and I was afraid it would make me look more feminine or make my boobs bigger so I submitted a ticket asking about it and they said it will do any kind of body type as long as I know what I want. Chubby, beefy, feminine, masculine etc. The feminine/masculine I just kind of assumed but I just choose to believe it works that way since I felt the ticket answer was a bit unspecific but the idea remains the same. I would assume Legacy of spartan works the same. Whatever you want, you will get. And it covers the whole body from head to toe.

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#10

Interesting

What if you don’t want to look like anyone else, but you know what improvements you’d want to see on yourself, can your subconscious work with that? IDK which module I read this on, but I do believe I read a description something along the lines of "will be guided by what your subconscious believes is most objectively attractive on you.

#11

Absolutely. What I said here is just something I do to “boost” it. As long as you know what you want and focus on that, youre good.

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#12

thanks

and for the sake of not having to start a new thread for every question I got:

Would a physical shift custom work well if one of the cores is Paragon Sleep?

For cores, I want to go:
LOTS core
New Phyiscal Shifting Core
Paragon sleep core

Thinking of adding Mosaic to make it blend. I have a history of battling insomnia. It comes and goes, and when it comes, it tanks the quality of my life pretty hard. So I either add it into the physical shift custom, or run as a standalone main title.

I will do the latter if adding into physical shift custom is a bad idea.

#13

Id say it will work perfect. I would advise to also keep the modules focused on shifting too to make the most out of it. It will be a great custom. I got a similar one for myself half a year back or so in QTKS. Its the best sub Ive ever ran right after khan. If you or anyone else can get qtks version, Id say its worth every penny especially in terms of shifting. But again no pressure hahaha. The custom draft will work great from what I see so far. I dont think it would do harm to the custom although maybe that would be a support ticket question. They know their technology best. One way or another, Id assume both the major and the custom stack idea seem they would work.

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#14

Hahaha, that’s such a funny way to put it. That has to do with waist to shoulder ratio, body fat % and likely higher estrogen.

But Eddy hall ripped has big obliques, this is more natural genetic build. If you don’t already have that subs wont’ give that to you, although if you do have it maybe they can help.

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#15

Ya, I agree he’s “ripped” but zero aesthetics. He reminds of me guys who take too much Dbol and get a lot of water retention. But to each their own, I know women who absolutely love men with this build but not for me.

#16

Just learned about QTKS. So simply put; your voice=more familiarity=better results?

Also if I can ask more questions, for synergy modules. I see some have a synergy of 2 modules, some 3 and some up to 5. When building a custom do you have to account the modules as the number of synergy combinations they come with, or does it still count as one module; even when it’s a heavier one with 5 combos?

Which brings me to my next question: Let’s say I want emphasis on face, if I get Synergy: Face and Head module and also Facial Morph module, would that be a waste of a module or is it worth adding ?

#17

yeah they duplicate your voice and it makes the custom like 20 times more powerful imo

it counts as only one module hehehe

I personally wanted face shifting only and I didnt care about the shape of my skull and such so istead of Synergy: Face and Head module, I got the normal Facial Morph module. I dont really know the answer… but you could just add both whatever you get extra scripting for face. It wont hurt your results.

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#18

I’ll submit a support ticket for this, but the theme I keep getting is, it won’t hurt you, as long as it doesn’t turn me into megamind or peanut head, I think I’ll give it a try :sweat_smile: