And women shouldn’t use Emperor, right? 
What is the most similar to the Emperor, and women can listen too?
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depends on what you want the sub to do. What is the goal.
You are lesbian, right?
Relationships and attraction are based on polarity. One part is usually more in the female energy, where the other part is more in the masculine energy.
That’s true for homosexual relationships as well.
I even know relationships with inverted polarities, where the guy is strongly in his female energy and the woman in her masculine energy (She did some plastering with me, while he was cooking).
Would you say you’re more in your male or in your female energy?
If it’s the male energy, you could run Emperor with ease.
@Iron what’s your opinion on that?
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I think that her dropping heartsong was a huge mistake. It would have solved the issues in a long run - if it was solvable in the first place. You literally dont need any other sub for this. You could trash them all and even then, if youd keep this one only, you have the best chance of making things right.
She dropped it for I dont know what reason. Maybe recon or just too many sub choices. I still think it was the best bet in this context. Still best of luck I suppose.
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If you want to give Emperor a shot go for it. Who cares what is for what. People get so hung up on " masculinity " and all other sorts of other stupid shit. I know of at least one guy who has run one of the titles that’s meant for women. It doesn’t really matter as long as you get the results you’re looking for. It’s your life
I’m not being rude or dismissive . I don’t want you to feel like you can or can’t do something because of some arbitrary bullshit
Following that idea a woman could also run The Revelation of the Nectar Within or BDLM? 
Some of those subs are arbitrary for a reason.
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You completely missed my point but that’s ok
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I’m actually going by what you wrote. 
Yes, my mistake is that I read the description of the wrong Emperor. I read the description for Emperor Black where it says:
- Easily develop strong and assertive masculine body language and masculine voice (part of the smoothing process, when you HAVE to socialize).
- Easily develop assertive, strong masculine language skills and manner of speaking (part of the smoothing process, when you HAVE to socialize).
That’s why I asked if women could listen to it. What you’re saying makes sense when it’s just about masculine energy and not masculine physical characteristics, because both my girlfriend and I are feminine and I want to keep it that way. 
I would say that I am more in masculine energy.
I dropped Heartsong mostly because of this:
And because I thought that I urgently needed a solution that would reduce the tension in my relationship a little, and along the way help me on my self-love journey.
I haven’t dropped Heartsong forever, I wish we could listen to 4 or even more subs in one cycle and have them all be equally effective. Maybe somewhere in the middle of this cycle I would bring in Heartsong or in the next cycle, maybe you can help me with that because I don’t know what would be the most effective and best for me.
EIDT: I just want to add my progress, the results of these two subs are almost unbelievable. The situation between the two of us has calmed down a lot, my girlfriend is much more approachable and shows a lot of understanding and effort. Some important topics were raised, to which she normally reacts negatively, but there were no such reactions. But the best part is that even if she didn’t show that better behavior, it wouldn’t affect me like it did before. I’m much calmer, I’m happier, I was happy on my own when we weren’t in contact, I wasn’t looking at my phone all the time waiting for her text etc.
In a few days we are going on separate vacations and will be separated for 3 weeks. While we were arguing, we silently came to an agreement not to see each other before that vacation, which would mean we wouldn’t see each other for another 4 weeks. That option was fine with me, I didn’t want to insist that we see each other, it seemed like she was fine too, but today she said that she has to come see me tomorrow. Some magic is happening.
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I would still go with the new Emperor which is the one for sale now. Are you running Love Bomb? I haven’t read the entire thread.
The pair of those could easily be a life altering experience. Especially if run long term. Humor me if you consent @traumjager
What are your goals
Do you mean “EMPEROR: The Will to Power”?
I am running Love Bomb and Ascension for Women. I can’t decide whether to add Heartsong, Primal Nights, or Emperor. 
My goals:
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I meant this.
Honestly it might not hurt to just run Love Bomb by itself for a while. I’m not sure you need Heartsong despite comments saying different. Heartsong seems like something meant for people looking for a relationship . From your goals I don’t think that’s you at this time.
I am resuming Love Bomb myself this coming Saturday when my week long washout ends. This and the two links are what I am aiming to achieve
If you are interested in a program and wonder about running it, you can look for the section in the product description about Gender and Sexual Orientation.
For example, Emperor’s descriptions says:
Gender and Sexual Orientation:
- This product was created specifically for men and designed to enhance masculine traits, though the product can technically be used by anyone who desires the development of masculine traits.
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I was exposed to Helen of Troy by mistake when sitting close to my friend that was listening to it on her headphones, I felt like I was in a beauty salon getting pampered and the next day my face had this very feminine shine to it and I felt very pretty and cute 
PS: from this experience I also took that the subconscious can hear messages at a very very low volume.
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Someone wrote in the Limitless thread, that he exited his car and started humming a tune. Wondering about the song he became quiet and noticed faint hints from the melody being softly transported by the wind from a window at the end of the road. And his subconscious took it up the moment he left his car. Truly amazing.
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I don’t think I’ll run Emperor. A couple of benefits are entirely for the male gender. Maybe one of the creators can help us and tell us how these benefits would affect a woman.
What do you think about running the subs like this?
Day 1: Love Bomb + Asc for Woman
Day 2: rest
Day 3: Love Bomb + Primal Nights
Day 4: rest
Please read this Support article for all Infos about stacking:
There it is this pattern recommended:
- Day 1: 1x first ZP title, 1x second ZP title
- Day 2: Rest
- Day 3: 1x third ZP title
- Day 4: Rest
- Day 5: 1x first ZP title, 1x second ZP title
- Day 6: Rest
- Day 7: 1x third ZP title
- Day 8: Rest
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Thank you, I know there is an official listening pattern, my question is what would be the effect if I listened as I wrote in the previous post. I love LB, I always feel good after listening and I don’t want to reduce the number of listens of LB because of the third title.
It’s how I listen to the subs myself, I usually listen to two of them every other day like you described, I juggle around them according to my needs. But I also am aware that it’s easy to over expose and overwork my system with all this input, so I also cut down and sometimes take 2 days break or listen to only one sub some of the days.
It’s really up to you but if you are new to this then I would suggest that you try taking 2 or 3 days break at random sometimes or simply wait for the 5 day break period to experience that the effect that you are enjoying from the sub will actually become stronger and even more a part of you than the days when you listen to it.
In my experience it is even more satisfactory when I take breaks because I get to experience the objectives and feelings that the sub convey as part of who I truly am.
Also in my experience listening only to 2 subs is way better and I get much deeper effects and results from them, but there are so many good subs it’s hard to resist the 3 stack.
edit: I forgot to mention when I listen to 2 subs in a day I usually split them apart, one in the morning after waking up and the other in the afternoon or evening, so I get more time and give more space for each one to process properly.
I tried this listening pattern before…it was definitely too much for me…the title that being extra pumped had caused emotional upheavals…so，just to be safe …dont do that…off course，you could always try…experiment comes with its own risks…… 
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